[gnomeweb-wml] Add IRC meeting logs for 2010-01-13 and 2010-01-20.



commit fdf1db88f3918abc46b690c44ec43e0edb7a6b9d
Author: Matthew Barnes <mbarnes redhat com>
Date:   Tue Feb 2 12:03:20 2010 -0500

    Add IRC meeting logs for 2010-01-13 and 2010-01-20.

 projects.gnome.org/evolution/ChangeLog             |    7 +
 projects.gnome.org/evolution/developer.shtml       |    8 +-
 .../evolution/meeting-logs/2010-01-13.shtml        |   70 +++++++++++
 .../evolution/meeting-logs/2010-01-13.txt          |   55 ++++++++
 .../evolution/meeting-logs/2010-01-20.shtml        |  132 ++++++++++++++++++++
 .../evolution/meeting-logs/2010-01-20.txt          |  117 +++++++++++++++++
 .../evolution/meeting-logs/Makefile.am             |    2 +
 projects.gnome.org/evolution/meetings.shtml        |    4 +-
 8 files changed, 390 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
---
diff --git a/projects.gnome.org/evolution/ChangeLog b/projects.gnome.org/evolution/ChangeLog
index 703e403..4aa6920 100644
--- a/projects.gnome.org/evolution/ChangeLog
+++ b/projects.gnome.org/evolution/ChangeLog
@@ -1,3 +1,10 @@
+2010-02-02  Matthew Barnes  <mbarnes redhat com>
+
+	* developer.shtml:
+	* meetings.shtml:
+	Add IRC meeting log for 2010-01-20.
+	Add IRC meeting log for 2010-01-13.
+
 2010-01-11  Matthew Barnes  <mbarnes redhat com>
 
 	* download.shtml:
diff --git a/projects.gnome.org/evolution/developer.shtml b/projects.gnome.org/evolution/developer.shtml
index 9c66224..29438d1 100644
--- a/projects.gnome.org/evolution/developer.shtml
+++ b/projects.gnome.org/evolution/developer.shtml
@@ -72,6 +72,8 @@
 
 <div class="split-half">
   <ul>
+    <li><a href="meeting-logs/2010-01-20.shtml">2010-01-20</a></li>
+    <li><a href="meeting-logs/2010-01-13.shtml">2010-01-13</a></li>
     <li><a href="meeting-logs/2010-01-06.shtml">2010-01-06</a></li>
     <li>2009-12-23 (no meeting)</li>
     <li><a href="meeting-logs/2009-12-16.shtml">2009-12-16</a></li>
@@ -83,8 +85,6 @@
     <li>2009-11-04 (no meeting)</li>
     <li>2009-10-28 (no meeting)</li>
     <li>2009-10-21 (no meeting)</li>
-    <li>2009-10-14 (no meeting)</li>
-    <li><a href="meeting-logs/2009-10-07.shtml">2009-10-07</a></li>
   </ul>
 
   <div style="clear:both;">&nbsp;</div>
@@ -94,6 +94,8 @@
 
 <div class="split-half">
   <ul>
+    <li>2009-10-14 (no meeting)</li>
+    <li><a href="meeting-logs/2009-10-07.shtml">2009-10-07</a></li>
     <li>2009-09-30 (no meeting)</li>
     <li>2009-09-23 (no meeting)</li>
     <li><a href="meeting-logs/2009-09-16.shtml">2009-09-16</a></li>
@@ -105,8 +107,6 @@
     <li><a href="meeting-logs/2009-08-05.shtml">2009-08-05</a></li>
     <li><a href="meeting-logs/2009-07-29.shtml">2009-07-29</a></li>
     <li><a href="meeting-logs/2009-07-22.shtml">2009-07-22</a></li>
-    <li><a href="meeting-logs/2009-07-15.shtml">2009-07-15</a></li>
-    <li>2009-07-08 (no meeting)</li>
   </ul>
 </div>
 
diff --git a/projects.gnome.org/evolution/meeting-logs/2010-01-13.shtml b/projects.gnome.org/evolution/meeting-logs/2010-01-13.shtml
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..1db8574
--- /dev/null
+++ b/projects.gnome.org/evolution/meeting-logs/2010-01-13.shtml
@@ -0,0 +1,70 @@
+<!--#set var="title" value="IRC Team Meeting - January 13, 2010"-->
+<!--#set var="section" value="developer"-->
+<!--#include virtual="../head.shtml"-->
+
+<h1>IRC Team Meeting - January 13, 2010</h1>
+<div class="irclog">
+<p id="tJan 13 10:37:20" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:37:20" class="time">Jan 13 10:37</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;mbarnes&gt;</span> <span class="text">hmm, not much of a turnout today</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:37:42" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:37:42" class="time">Jan 13 10:37</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;mbarnes&gt;</span> <span class="text">chen is out for the rest of the week</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:39:17" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:39:17" class="time">Jan 13 10:39</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;treitter&gt;</span> <span class="text">I guess we should just do a quick update on what we've done, in alphabetical order</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:39:36" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:39:36" class="time">Jan 13 10:39</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;treitter&gt;</span> <span class="text">andre: anything new?</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:40:19" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:40:19" class="time">Jan 13 10:40</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;andre&gt;</span> <span class="text">nope, just slacking here.</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:40:57" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:40:57" class="time">Jan 13 10:40</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;treitter&gt;</span> <span class="text">cool :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:41:00" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:41:00" class="time">Jan 13 10:41</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;treitter&gt;</span> <span class="text">jonner?</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:42:01" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:42:01" class="time">Jan 13 10:42</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685">&lt;jonner&gt;</span> <span class="text">well, I've chatted with mbarnes a bit about my huge refactoring of mail-mt stuff, and am moving forward with that.</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:42:16" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:42:16" class="time">Jan 13 10:42</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685">&lt;jonner&gt;</span> <span class="text">I've gotten to a point where I've not split the mail/ directory into two libraries in preparation for the backend split</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:42:44" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:42:44" class="time">Jan 13 10:42</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685">&lt;jonner&gt;</span> <span class="text">and now I'm starting to think about what the DBus API should look like between them.</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:43:06" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:43:06" class="time">Jan 13 10:43</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685">&lt;jonner&gt;</span> <span class="text">oops, "I've not" -&gt; "I've now"</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:43:57" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:43:57" class="time">Jan 13 10:43</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685">&lt;jonner&gt;</span> <span class="text">so that's where I stand.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:44:32" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:44:32" class="time">Jan 13 10:44</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;mbarnes&gt;</span> <span class="text">jonner: will the mail backed be structured in e-d-s similar to calendar and addressbook?</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:44:40" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:44:40" class="time">Jan 13 10:44</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685">&lt;jonner&gt;</span> <span class="text">Also, before too long, I'm probably going to need to merge the camel-gobject branch with my branch</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:44:45" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:44:45" class="time">Jan 13 10:44</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;mbarnes&gt;</span> <span class="text">i.e. with libemail and libedata-mail libraries?</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:45:02" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:45:02" class="time">Jan 13 10:45</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685">&lt;jonner&gt;</span> <span class="text">mbarnes, that was sort of my assumption, yes</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:45:51" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:45:51" class="time">Jan 13 10:45</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;mbarnes&gt;</span> <span class="text">I'll try to get camel-gobject somewhat working again as soon as I can</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:46:16" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:46:16" class="time">Jan 13 10:46</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;mbarnes&gt;</span> <span class="text">it has some issues after the s/CamelException/GError/ work</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:46:23" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:46:23" class="time">Jan 13 10:46</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685">&lt;jonner&gt;</span> <span class="text">ok</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:46:38" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:46:38" class="time">Jan 13 10:46</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;mbarnes&gt;</span> <span class="text">apparently CamelException silently allows errors to pile up, and the code abuses that in a few places</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:47:06" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:47:06" class="time">Jan 13 10:47</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;treitter&gt;</span> <span class="text">yuck</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:47:22" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:47:22" class="time">Jan 13 10:47</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685">&lt;jonner&gt;</span> <span class="text">hm</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:48:41" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:48:41" class="time">Jan 13 10:48</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;treitter&gt;</span> <span class="text">mbarnes: anything new on your end?</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:48:50" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:48:50" class="time">Jan 13 10:48</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;mbarnes&gt;</span> <span class="text">I've been stuck on Red Hat stuff all week so nothing much to report</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:48:55" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:48:55" class="time">Jan 13 10:48</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;mbarnes&gt;</span> <span class="text">but I'll speak for chen: he's made some really impressive progress on the new IMAP backend</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:49:02" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:49:02" class="time">Jan 13 10:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;mbarnes&gt;</span> <span class="text">checkout: <a href="http://chenthill.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/evolution-with-improved-imap-support-imapx/";>http://chenthill.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/evolution-with-improved-imap-support-imapx/</a></span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:49:09" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:49:09" class="time">Jan 13 10:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685">&lt;jonner&gt;</span> <span class="text">yeah, that's exciting</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:49:20" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:49:20" class="time">Jan 13 10:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;treitter&gt;</span> <span class="text">yeah, glad to see that</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:49:36" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:49:36" class="time">Jan 13 10:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;treitter&gt;</span> <span class="text">we could always do with better IMAP support :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:50:10" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:50:10" class="time">Jan 13 10:50</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685">&lt;jonner&gt;</span> <span class="text">eek, I just accidentally pushed a bunch of my experimental branches to gnome's git when i was trying to push to my personal repo</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:50:18" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:50:18" class="time">Jan 13 10:50</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685">&lt;jonner&gt;</span> <span class="text">sorry if people get a bunch of commit mails or something</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:50:23" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:50:23" class="time">Jan 13 10:50</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;mbarnes&gt;</span> <span class="text">yeah, and I think this is our third or fourth attempt to replace the original IMAP backend</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:50:30" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:50:30" class="time">Jan 13 10:50</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;mbarnes&gt;</span> <span class="text">looks like this time it might actually stick</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:51:18" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:51:18" class="time">Jan 13 10:51</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;treitter&gt;</span> <span class="text">mbarnes: was it not actually replaced those times, or was it just that the quality of the newer engine wasn't much better?</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:52:27" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:52:27" class="time">Jan 13 10:52</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;mbarnes&gt;</span> <span class="text">I think they were all unfinished or abandoned for one reason or another.&nbsp;&nbsp;they predate me so I don't know the backstories</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:53:42" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:53:42" class="time">Jan 13 10:53</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;treitter&gt;</span> <span class="text">ah</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:53:45" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:53:45" class="time">Jan 13 10:53</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;treitter&gt;</span> <span class="text">here's my update:</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:53:49" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:53:49" class="time">Jan 13 10:53</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;treitter&gt;</span> <span class="text">I'm waiting on Chentill to review my calendar tests in bug #605709. Ross approved the addressbook tests already.</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:53:53" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:53:53" class="time">Jan 13 10:53</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;treitter&gt;</span> <span class="text">The tests pointed out bug #606765 (which I'll be fixing in a few minutes), so I'm looking forward to merging them.</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:54:03" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:54:03" class="time">Jan 13 10:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;treitter&gt;</span> <span class="text">I'm nearly done factoring out common code between the addressbook and calendar factories (and their immediate dependencies), so we should avoid some of the subtle differences between them (which can cause hard-to-find bugs).</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:55:54" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:55:54" class="time">Jan 13 10:55</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;mbarnes&gt;</span> <span class="text">I wonder, since we have a working test suite now, if we should implement the GnomeGoal about adding gcov support</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:56:03" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:56:03" class="time">Jan 13 10:56</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;mbarnes&gt;</span> <span class="text">at least for e-d-s, maybe not evo</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:57:28" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:57:28" class="time">Jan 13 10:57</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;treitter&gt;</span> <span class="text">mbarnes: could be worthwhile</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:57:42" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:57:42" class="time">Jan 13 10:57</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;treitter&gt;</span> <span class="text">this suite only skims the surface, so I hope we'll keep adding to it</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:57:56" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:57:56" class="time">Jan 13 10:57</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685">&lt;jonner&gt;</span> <span class="text">(OK, now I've cleaned up the mess I made in git, and pushed to the right repo, so if people want to check out my work, you can find it at <a href="http://git.collabora.co.uk/?p=user/jonathon/evolution;a=summary,";>http://git.collabora.co.uk/?p=user/jonathon/evolution;a=summary,</a> branch eds-mailer)</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:58:58" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:58:58" class="time">Jan 13 10:58</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;mbarnes&gt;</span> <span class="text">that's how most test suites get started.&nbsp;&nbsp;and coverage analysis would help us identify where we need to add tests</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:59:10" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:59:10" class="time">Jan 13 10:59</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;treitter&gt;</span> <span class="text">absolutely</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 10:59:58" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 10:59:58" class="time">Jan 13 10:59</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;mbarnes&gt;</span> <span class="text">I'll keep an eye on the d-d-l discussion about it</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 11:01:28" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 11:01:28" class="time">Jan 13 11:01</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;treitter&gt;</span> <span class="text">cool</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 11:01:44" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 11:01:44" class="time">Jan 13 11:01</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;mbarnes&gt;</span> <span class="text">well, other than the usual reminder about entering the string and UI annoucement period, that's all I had for this meeting</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 11:02:56" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 11:02:56" class="time">Jan 13 11:02</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;mbarnes&gt;</span> <span class="text">any other updates or shall we adjourn?</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 11:03:07" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 11:03:07" class="time">Jan 13 11:03</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;treitter&gt;</span> <span class="text">I'm good</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 11:03:44" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 11:03:44" class="time">Jan 13 11:03</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;mbarnes&gt;</span> <span class="text">alright, thanks guys</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 13 11:04:14" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 13 11:04:14" class="time">Jan 13 11:04</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;treitter&gt;</span> <span class="text">bye!</span></p>
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diff --git a/projects.gnome.org/evolution/meeting-logs/2010-01-13.txt b/projects.gnome.org/evolution/meeting-logs/2010-01-13.txt
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+Jan 13 10:37:20 <mbarnes>	hmm, not much of a turnout today
+Jan 13 10:37:42 <mbarnes>	chen is out for the rest of the week
+Jan 13 10:39:17 <treitter>	I guess we should just do a quick update on what we've done, in alphabetical order
+Jan 13 10:39:36 <treitter>	andre: anything new?
+Jan 13 10:40:19 <andre>	nope, just slacking here.
+Jan 13 10:40:57 <treitter>	cool :)
+Jan 13 10:41:00 <treitter>	jonner?
+Jan 13 10:42:01 <jonner>	well, I've chatted with mbarnes a bit about my huge refactoring of mail-mt stuff, and am moving forward with that.
+Jan 13 10:42:16 <jonner>	I've gotten to a point where I've not split the mail/ directory into two libraries in preparation for the backend split
+Jan 13 10:42:44 <jonner>	and now I'm starting to think about what the DBus API should look like between them.
+Jan 13 10:43:06 <jonner>	oops, "I've not" -> "I've now"
+Jan 13 10:43:57 <jonner>	so that's where I stand.  
+Jan 13 10:44:32 <mbarnes>	jonner: will the mail backed be structured in e-d-s similar to calendar and addressbook?
+Jan 13 10:44:40 <jonner>	Also, before too long, I'm probably going to need to merge the camel-gobject branch with my branch
+Jan 13 10:44:45 <mbarnes>	i.e. with libemail and libedata-mail libraries?
+Jan 13 10:45:02 <jonner>	mbarnes, that was sort of my assumption, yes
+Jan 13 10:45:51 <mbarnes>	I'll try to get camel-gobject somewhat working again as soon as I can
+Jan 13 10:46:16 <mbarnes>	it has some issues after the s/CamelException/GError/ work
+Jan 13 10:46:23 <jonner>	ok
+Jan 13 10:46:38 <mbarnes>	apparently CamelException silently allows errors to pile up, and the code abuses that in a few places
+Jan 13 10:47:06 <treitter>	yuck
+Jan 13 10:47:22 <jonner>	hm
+Jan 13 10:48:41 <treitter>	mbarnes: anything new on your end?
+Jan 13 10:48:50 <mbarnes>	I've been stuck on Red Hat stuff all week so nothing much to report
+Jan 13 10:48:55 <mbarnes>	but I'll speak for chen: he's made some really impressive progress on the new IMAP backend
+Jan 13 10:49:02 <mbarnes>	checkout: http://chenthill.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/evolution-with-improved-imap-support-imapx/
+Jan 13 10:49:09 <jonner>	yeah, that's exciting
+Jan 13 10:49:20 <treitter>	yeah, glad to see that
+Jan 13 10:49:36 <treitter>	we could always do with better IMAP support :)
+Jan 13 10:50:10 <jonner>	eek, I just accidentally pushed a bunch of my experimental branches to gnome's git when i was trying to push to my personal repo
+Jan 13 10:50:18 <jonner>	sorry if people get a bunch of commit mails or something
+Jan 13 10:50:23 <mbarnes>	yeah, and I think this is our third or fourth attempt to replace the original IMAP backend
+Jan 13 10:50:30 <mbarnes>	looks like this time it might actually stick
+Jan 13 10:51:18 <treitter>	mbarnes: was it not actually replaced those times, or was it just that the quality of the newer engine wasn't much better?
+Jan 13 10:52:27 <mbarnes>	I think they were all unfinished or abandoned for one reason or another.  they predate me so I don't know the backstories
+Jan 13 10:53:42 <treitter>	ah
+Jan 13 10:53:45 <treitter>	here's my update:
+Jan 13 10:53:49 <treitter>	I'm waiting on Chentill to review my calendar tests in bug #605709. Ross approved the addressbook tests already.
+Jan 13 10:53:53 <treitter>	The tests pointed out bug #606765 (which I'll be fixing in a few minutes), so I'm looking forward to merging them.
+Jan 13 10:54:03 <treitter>	I'm nearly done factoring out common code between the addressbook and calendar factories (and their immediate dependencies), so we should avoid some of the subtle differences between them (which can cause hard-to-find bugs).
+Jan 13 10:55:54 <mbarnes>	I wonder, since we have a working test suite now, if we should implement the GnomeGoal about adding gcov support
+Jan 13 10:56:03 <mbarnes>	at least for e-d-s, maybe not evo
+Jan 13 10:57:28 <treitter>	mbarnes: could be worthwhile
+Jan 13 10:57:42 <treitter>	this suite only skims the surface, so I hope we'll keep adding to it
+Jan 13 10:57:56 <jonner>	(OK, now I've cleaned up the mess I made in git, and pushed to the right repo, so if people want to check out my work, you can find it at http://git.collabora.co.uk/?p=user/jonathon/evolution;a=summary, branch eds-mailer)
+Jan 13 10:58:58 <mbarnes>	that's how most test suites get started.  and coverage analysis would help us identify where we need to add tests
+Jan 13 10:59:10 <treitter>	absolutely
+Jan 13 10:59:58 <mbarnes>	I'll keep an eye on the d-d-l discussion about it
+Jan 13 11:01:28 <treitter>	cool
+Jan 13 11:01:44 <mbarnes>	well, other than the usual reminder about entering the string and UI annoucement period, that's all I had for this meeting
+Jan 13 11:02:56 <mbarnes>	any other updates or shall we adjourn?
+Jan 13 11:03:07 <treitter>	I'm good
+Jan 13 11:03:44 <mbarnes>	alright, thanks guys
+Jan 13 11:04:14 <treitter>	bye!
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+<p id="tJan 20 10:30:29" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:30:29" class="time">Jan 20 10:30</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">Lets get started and akhil can join us in between..</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:30:54" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:30:54" class="time">Jan 20 10:30</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">API/ABI freeze has added up with the string announce period from jan 18,</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:31:09" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:31:09" class="time">Jan 20 10:31</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">we have the 2.29.6 release coming up next week Jan 26,</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:31:18" class="action"><a href="#tJan 20 10:31:18" class="time">Jan 20 10:31</a> *lakhil (~lakhil 117 192 25 98) has joined #evolution-meet</p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:31:19" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:31:19" class="time">Jan 20 10:31</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">please push all the patches early to get into the release..</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:31:24" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:31:24" class="time">Jan 20 10:31</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">hey lakhil </span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:31:36" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:31:36" class="time">Jan 20 10:31</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;lakhil&gt;</span> <span class="text">hi chen sorry for being late </span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:31:52" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:31:52" class="time">Jan 20 10:31</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">lakhil, np we just started a minute back :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:32:36" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:32:36" class="time">Jan 20 10:32</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">update on imapx available at <a href="http://chenthill.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/evolution-with-improved-imap-support-imapx/";>http://chenthill.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/evolution-with-improved-imap-support-imapx/</a></span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:33:09" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:33:09" class="time">Jan 20 10:33</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">mbarnes, I guess we would be targetting all the regressions now and hope there is nothing pending on kill-bonobo ?</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:33:40" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:33:40" class="time">Jan 20 10:33</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;mbarnes&gt;</span> <span class="text">yep, playing whack-a-mole with them</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:33:57" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:33:57" class="time">Jan 20 10:33</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">I would be testing gdbus branch from trietter tomorrow and see if it can be taken into master,</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:34:37" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:34:37" class="time">Jan 20 10:34</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">but need to clarify if it would add additional packaging of external modules..</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:34:44" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:34:44" class="time">Jan 20 10:34</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">mbarnes, cool :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:35:13" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:35:13" class="time">Jan 20 10:35</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">that would be for the general updates..</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:35:28" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:35:28" class="time">Jan 20 10:35</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">anything else which we need to discuss before moving on to status updates ?</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:35:39" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:35:39" class="time">Jan 20 10:35</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;mbarnes&gt;</span> <span class="text">yeah, I have something</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:35:49" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:35:49" class="time">Jan 20 10:35</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">go on :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:36:08" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:36:08" class="time">Jan 20 10:36</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;mbarnes&gt;</span> <span class="text">it came up recently on evolution-patches that the mailing list is effectively dead these days</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:36:16" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:36:16" class="time">Jan 20 10:36</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;mbarnes&gt;</span> <span class="text">wondering if we should retire it officially</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:36:35" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:36:35" class="time">Jan 20 10:36</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">yes we can and should imho</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:36:43" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:36:43" class="time">Jan 20 10:36</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685">&lt;abharath&gt;</span> <span class="text">that would be best</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:37:03" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:37:03" class="time">Jan 20 10:37</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;mbarnes&gt;</span> <span class="text">okay, I'll look into it and see if the archive can still be made available</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:37:16" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:37:16" class="time">Jan 20 10:37</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">that would be great</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:37:27" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:37:27" class="time">Jan 20 10:37</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">mbarnes, anything else..</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:37:31" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:37:31" class="time">Jan 20 10:37</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;mbarnes&gt;</span> <span class="text">nope</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:37:38" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:37:38" class="time">Jan 20 10:37</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;lakhil&gt;</span> <span class="text">gdbus can only be committed before API/ABI Freeze ?</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:38:04" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:38:04" class="time">Jan 20 10:38</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">lakhil, its just the transport layer we would change, so it wont affect the freeze i guess</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:38:12" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:38:12" class="time">Jan 20 10:38</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;lakhil&gt;</span> <span class="text">ah..k</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:38:24" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:38:24" class="time">Jan 20 10:38</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">updates from my side,</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:38:26" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:38:26" class="time">Jan 20 10:38</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888">&lt;jonner&gt;</span> <span class="text">gdbus stuff can't be committed though afaik because it's not even in glib yet</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:39:07" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:39:07" class="time">Jan 20 10:39</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">jonner, ok, can it alone be packaged with EDS if it makes things stable ?</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:39:08" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:39:08" class="time">Jan 20 10:39</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a">&lt;jony&gt;</span> <span class="text">(hello)</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:39:14" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:39:14" class="time">Jan 20 10:39</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">hey jonner </span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:39:17" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:39:17" class="time">Jan 20 10:39</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">hey jony </span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:40:18" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:40:18" class="time">Jan 20 10:40</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888">&lt;jonner&gt;</span> <span class="text">chen, I doubt it.&nbsp;&nbsp;as far as I know, it was targetted to be included in the upcoming glib release, but it's not in git yet, so travis has had to depend on an experimental branch of glib while doing the work.</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:41:22" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:41:22" class="time">Jan 20 10:41</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">jonner, ok was just wondering if there is something we can do if it makes things stable. With the current dbus-glib things are a bit slow due to the sync locks i guess. maybe lets take it offline</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:41:30" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:41:30" class="time">Jan 20 10:41</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">let me test the branch tomorrow..</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:41:47" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:41:47" class="time">Jan 20 10:41</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888">&lt;jonner&gt;</span> <span class="text">yeah, I'm not entirely sure what our options are.&nbsp;&nbsp;it would obviously be best if they could just get it merged into glib soon</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:42:02" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:42:02" class="time">Jan 20 10:42</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">yup</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:42:47" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:42:47" class="time">Jan 20 10:42</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">updates from my side, mostly on leave and worked on some security fixes/back-porting them to opensuse+sle versions..</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:43:04" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:43:04" class="time">Jan 20 10:43</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">would be working on remaining imapx tasks over next week..</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:43:12" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:43:12" class="time">Jan 20 10:43</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">abharath, updates?</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:43:47" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:43:47" class="time">Jan 20 10:43</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685">&lt;abharath&gt;</span> <span class="text">chen: same here. Mostly on internal issues. Would start on mapi issues soon</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:44:03" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:44:03" class="time">Jan 20 10:44</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">abharath, fine</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:44:04" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:44:04" class="time">Jan 20 10:44</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685">&lt;abharath&gt;</span> <span class="text">Have some patches to finish</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:44:18" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:44:18" class="time">Jan 20 10:44</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">dave_largo, anything for us?</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:44:25" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:44:25" class="time">Jan 20 10:44</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">abharath, cool</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:44:34" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:44:34" class="time">Jan 20 10:44</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">jonner, updates?</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:44:46" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:44:46" class="time">Jan 20 10:44</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685">&lt;abharath&gt;</span> <span class="text">chen: and Fridrich had some patches for windows portability. Would be committing them in a day or two</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:44:46" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:44:46" class="time">Jan 20 10:44</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4b904b">&lt;dave_largo&gt;</span> <span class="text">Not really anything for me, I'll try and poke at the Wiki some more. I have been really busy here.</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:45:22" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:45:22" class="time">Jan 20 10:45</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">dave_largo, cool, will join u there sometime during this week..</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:45:28" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:45:28" class="time">Jan 20 10:45</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">jony, updates?</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:45:34" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:45:34" class="time">Jan 20 10:45</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a">&lt;jony&gt;</span> <span class="text">chen: been away from code for a while. pushed event notification . we moved to libmapi 0.9 . will be fixing some bugs from next week.</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:46:04" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:46:04" class="time">Jan 20 10:46</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a">&lt;jony&gt;</span> <span class="text">i may diable push events if i can't fix the CPU bug from evolution-mapi. have a patch for libmapi though . </span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:46:05" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:46:05" class="time">Jan 20 10:46</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">jony, thanks</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:46:07" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:46:07" class="time">Jan 20 10:46</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">lakhil, updates</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:46:11" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:46:11" class="time">Jan 20 10:46</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a">&lt;jony&gt;</span> <span class="text">*disable</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:46:32" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:46:32" class="time">Jan 20 10:46</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;lakhil&gt;</span> <span class="text">chen, testing mapi against libmapi 0.9, sle testing and bug triaging </span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:46:40" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:46:40" class="time">Jan 20 10:46</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">jony, ah, do u need to really disable ?</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:46:58" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:46:58" class="time">Jan 20 10:46</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">lakhil, cool</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:47:01" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:47:01" class="time">Jan 20 10:47</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a">&lt;jony&gt;</span> <span class="text">chen: not sure .. i'll be looking for a workaround tomorrow .. letz see :) </span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:47:14" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:47:14" class="time">Jan 20 10:47</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">jony, fine</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:47:24" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:47:24" class="time">Jan 20 10:47</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888">&lt;jonner&gt;</span> <span class="text">I've made some more progress on the backend split, which you can find here if anybody is interested: <a href="http://git.collabora.co.uk/?p=user/jonathon/evolution;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/eds-mailer";>http://git.collabora.co.uk/?p=user/jonathon/evolution;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/eds-mailer</a> .&nbsp;&nbsp;From now on it will be important to start defining the DBus API more concretely.</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:47:29" class="action"><a href="#tJan 20 10:47:29" class="time">Jan 20 10:47</a> *chen wishes jony fixes it and not disables the awesome feature :)</p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:47:35" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:47:35" class="time">Jan 20 10:47</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a">&lt;jony&gt;</span> <span class="text">chen: me too :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:48:03" class="action"><a href="#tJan 20 10:48:03" class="time">Jan 20 10:48</a> *jony notes down jonner 's repo.</p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:48:03" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:48:03" class="time">Jan 20 10:48</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888">&lt;jonner&gt;</span> <span class="text">i may be helping out a bit with some mapi stuff in the near future as well</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:48:14" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:48:14" class="time">Jan 20 10:48</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a">&lt;jony&gt;</span> <span class="text">welcome welcome !</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:48:15" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:48:15" class="time">Jan 20 10:48</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">jonner, defining the dbus api's should be interesting one :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:48:25" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:48:25" class="time">Jan 20 10:48</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">jonner, nice!</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:48:35" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:48:35" class="time">Jan 20 10:48</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">it definetly needs more people</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:48:39" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:48:39" class="time">Jan 20 10:48</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888">&lt;jonner&gt;</span> <span class="text">if I can get libmapi 0.9 built...</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:48:53" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:48:53" class="time">Jan 20 10:48</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">mbarnes, updates?</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:49:01" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:49:01" class="time">Jan 20 10:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a">&lt;jony&gt;</span> <span class="text">jonner: mmm .. lemme know if i can help out there .. </span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:49:07" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:49:07" class="time">Jan 20 10:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4b904b">&lt;dave_largo&gt;</span> <span class="text">I would gladly accept drop and drag into PDF and Image Gallery here at some point :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:49:17" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:49:17" class="time">Jan 20 10:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;mbarnes&gt;</span> <span class="text">just fixing regressions, mainly</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:49:18" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:49:18" class="time">Jan 20 10:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685">&lt;abharath&gt;</span> <span class="text">jonner: <a href="http://www.go-evolution.org/MAPIProvider";>http://www.go-evolution.org/MAPIProvider</a></span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:49:19" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:49:19" class="time">Jan 20 10:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;mbarnes&gt;</span> <span class="text">I was also playing around with llvm and the clang static analyzer last weekend</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:49:19" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:49:19" class="time">Jan 20 10:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;mbarnes&gt;</span> <span class="text">pretty impressive, despite the false positives</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:49:19" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:49:19" class="time">Jan 20 10:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;mbarnes&gt;</span> <span class="text">would be cool to integrate it into an automated daily build, somehow</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:49:19" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:49:19" class="time">Jan 20 10:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;mbarnes&gt;</span> <span class="text">build.gnome.org comes to mind, but I wouldn't know where to start</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:49:44" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:49:44" class="time">Jan 20 10:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685">&lt;abharath&gt;</span> <span class="text">most of the steps in there still hold good. Let us know if you face any issues</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:50:19" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:50:19" class="time">Jan 20 10:50</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">mbarnes, cool, something like opensuse build service ?</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:50:34" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:50:34" class="time">Jan 20 10:50</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888">&lt;jonner&gt;</span> <span class="text">abharath, ok, thanks.&nbsp;&nbsp;I've been fighting with getting a newer samba4 installed, I'll see if that page helps me at all</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:50:55" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:50:55" class="time">Jan 20 10:50</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">dave_largo, sure, are those patches reviewed?</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:50:59" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:50:59" class="time">Jan 20 10:50</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144">&lt;mbarnes&gt;</span> <span class="text">chen: yeah, something like that.&nbsp;&nbsp;build.gnome.org seems... well, less than useful from what I've seen</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:51:04" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:51:04" class="time">Jan 20 10:51</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">mcrha, updates?</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:51:08" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:51:08" class="time">Jan 20 10:51</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4d4d93">&lt;mcrha&gt;</span> <span class="text">on various bugs as usual, also some internal work. but, when you were talking about API/ABI freeze in effect, I added two public functions in eds code, intended to be used in there only, between two files. it doesn't change structure size or anything. It doesn't matter, right?</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:51:09" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:51:09" class="time">Jan 20 10:51</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685">&lt;abharath&gt;</span> <span class="text">jonner: sure</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:51:12" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:51:12" class="time">Jan 20 10:51</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a">&lt;jony&gt;</span> <span class="text">jonner: you can use scripts inside openchange for building samba4. (incase you missed them)</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:51:22" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:51:22" class="time">Jan 20 10:51</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888">&lt;jonner&gt;</span> <span class="text">jony, yes, I did.&nbsp;&nbsp;I will try that now ;)</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:51:25" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:51:25" class="time">Jan 20 10:51</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">mbarnes, ok</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:51:43" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:51:43" class="time">Jan 20 10:51</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4b904b">&lt;dave_largo&gt;</span> <span class="text">chen, DnD pdf was rough but working, Image Gallery had some comments by mbarnes, but needed more work</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:51:54" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:51:54" class="time">Jan 20 10:51</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">mcrha, in libcamel or libecal/libebook?</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:52:11" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:52:11" class="time">Jan 20 10:52</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4d4d93">&lt;mcrha&gt;</span> <span class="text">libedataserverui/e-name-selector-model.h</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:52:25" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:52:25" class="time">Jan 20 10:52</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;lakhil&gt;</span> <span class="text">dave_largo, can you please give me bug id for Image gallery ?</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:52:26" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:52:26" class="time">Jan 20 10:52</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">dave_largo, ok, i guess the reworks must be complete before 25th for it to be taken in for 2.30..</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:52:33" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:52:33" class="time">Jan 20 10:52</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">as the feature freeze begins then</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:52:53" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:52:53" class="time">Jan 20 10:52</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">mcrha, that wont come into API/ABI freeze..</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:53:14" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:53:14" class="time">Jan 20 10:53</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4d4d93">&lt;mcrha&gt;</span> <span class="text">ok, thanks, I was just checking to be sure</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:53:20" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:53:20" class="time">Jan 20 10:53</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4b904b">&lt;dave_largo&gt;</span> <span class="text">lakhil <a href="https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=567879";>https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=567879</a></span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:53:23" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:53:23" class="time">Jan 20 10:53</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">cool</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:53:49" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:53:49" class="time">Jan 20 10:53</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">that winds up the meeting today..</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:54:01" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:54:01" class="time">Jan 20 10:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">thanks, everyone</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:54:19" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:54:19" class="time">Jan 20 10:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40">&lt;chen&gt;</span> <span class="text">catch you next week same time :)</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:54:23" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:54:23" class="time">Jan 20 10:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4b904b">&lt;dave_largo&gt;</span> <span class="text">lahkil, even as it works now...it's a huge help for us</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:54:31" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:54:31" class="time">Jan 20 10:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4d4d93">&lt;mcrha&gt;</span> <span class="text">bye</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:54:38" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:54:38" class="time">Jan 20 10:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a">&lt;jony&gt;</span> <span class="text">later .. /me |out</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:54:43" class="action"><a href="#tJan 20 10:54:43" class="time">Jan 20 10:54</a> *jony is now known as jony|out</p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:54:51" class="action"><a href="#tJan 20 10:54:51" class="time">Jan 20 10:54</a> *mcrha (~mcrha nat-pool-brq-t redhat com) has left #evolution-meet</p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:54:52" class="action"><a href="#tJan 20 10:54:52" class="time">Jan 20 10:54</a> *chen is now known as chen|brb</p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:55:29" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:55:29" class="time">Jan 20 10:55</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e">&lt;lakhil&gt;</span> <span class="text">dave_largo, ah..k</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:55:40" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:55:40" class="time">Jan 20 10:55</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4b904b">&lt;dave_largo&gt;</span> <span class="text">People can't locate these things on the file system</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:55:47" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:55:47" class="time">Jan 20 10:55</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4b904b">&lt;dave_largo&gt;</span> <span class="text">and this lets them just drop and drag them into email</span></p>
+<p id="tJan 20 10:55:55" class="comment"><a href="#tJan 20 10:55:55" class="time">Jan 20 10:55</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4b904b">&lt;dave_largo&gt;</span> <span class="text">corporate or city logos, emoticons</span></p>
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+Jan 20 10:30:29 <chen>	Lets get started and akhil can join us in between..
+Jan 20 10:30:54 <chen>	API/ABI freeze has added up with the string announce period from jan 18,
+Jan 20 10:31:09 <chen>	we have the 2.29.6 release coming up next week Jan 26,
+Jan 20 10:31:18 *	lakhil (~lakhil 117 192 25 98) has joined #evolution-meet
+Jan 20 10:31:19 <chen>	please push all the patches early to get into the release..
+Jan 20 10:31:24 <chen>	hey lakhil 
+Jan 20 10:31:36 <lakhil>	hi chen sorry for being late 
+Jan 20 10:31:52 <chen>	lakhil, np we just started a minute back :)
+Jan 20 10:32:36 <chen>	update on imapx available at http://chenthill.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/evolution-with-improved-imap-support-imapx/
+Jan 20 10:33:09 <chen>	mbarnes, I guess we would be targetting all the regressions now and hope there is nothing pending on kill-bonobo ?
+Jan 20 10:33:40 <mbarnes>	yep, playing whack-a-mole with them
+Jan 20 10:33:57 <chen>	I would be testing gdbus branch from trietter tomorrow and see if it can be taken into master,
+Jan 20 10:34:37 <chen>	but need to clarify if it would add additional packaging of external modules..
+Jan 20 10:34:44 <chen>	mbarnes, cool :)
+Jan 20 10:35:13 <chen>	that would be for the general updates..
+Jan 20 10:35:28 <chen>	anything else which we need to discuss before moving on to status updates ?
+Jan 20 10:35:39 <mbarnes>	yeah, I have something
+Jan 20 10:35:49 <chen>	go on :)
+Jan 20 10:36:08 <mbarnes>	it came up recently on evolution-patches that the mailing list is effectively dead these days
+Jan 20 10:36:16 <mbarnes>	wondering if we should retire it officially
+Jan 20 10:36:35 <chen>	yes we can and should imho
+Jan 20 10:36:43 <abharath>	that would be best
+Jan 20 10:37:03 <mbarnes>	okay, I'll look into it and see if the archive can still be made available
+Jan 20 10:37:16 <chen>	that would be great
+Jan 20 10:37:27 <chen>	mbarnes, anything else..
+Jan 20 10:37:31 <mbarnes>	nope
+Jan 20 10:37:38 <lakhil>	gdbus can only be committed before API/ABI Freeze ?
+Jan 20 10:38:04 <chen>	lakhil, its just the transport layer we would change, so it wont affect the freeze i guess
+Jan 20 10:38:12 <lakhil>	ah..k
+Jan 20 10:38:24 <chen>	updates from my side,
+Jan 20 10:38:26 <jonner>	gdbus stuff can't be committed though afaik because it's not even in glib yet
+Jan 20 10:39:07 <chen>	jonner, ok, can it alone be packaged with EDS if it makes things stable ?
+Jan 20 10:39:08 <jony>	(hello)
+Jan 20 10:39:14 <chen>	hey jonner 
+Jan 20 10:39:17 <chen>	hey jony 
+Jan 20 10:40:18 <jonner>	chen, I doubt it.  as far as I know, it was targetted to be included in the upcoming glib release, but it's not in git yet, so travis has had to depend on an experimental branch of glib while doing the work.
+Jan 20 10:41:22 <chen>	jonner, ok was just wondering if there is something we can do if it makes things stable. With the current dbus-glib things are a bit slow due to the sync locks i guess. maybe lets take it offline
+Jan 20 10:41:30 <chen>	let me test the branch tomorrow..
+Jan 20 10:41:47 <jonner>	yeah, I'm not entirely sure what our options are.  it would obviously be best if they could just get it merged into glib soon
+Jan 20 10:42:02 <chen>	yup
+Jan 20 10:42:47 <chen>	updates from my side, mostly on leave and worked on some security fixes/back-porting them to opensuse+sle versions..
+Jan 20 10:43:04 <chen>	would be working on remaining imapx tasks over next week..
+Jan 20 10:43:12 <chen>	abharath, updates?
+Jan 20 10:43:47 <abharath>	chen: same here. Mostly on internal issues. Would start on mapi issues soon
+Jan 20 10:44:03 <chen>	abharath, fine
+Jan 20 10:44:04 <abharath>	Have some patches to finish
+Jan 20 10:44:18 <chen>	dave_largo, anything for us?
+Jan 20 10:44:25 <chen>	abharath, cool
+Jan 20 10:44:34 <chen>	jonner, updates?
+Jan 20 10:44:46 <abharath>	chen: and Fridrich had some patches for windows portability. Would be committing them in a day or two
+Jan 20 10:44:46 <dave_largo>	Not really anything for me, I'll try and poke at the Wiki some more. I have been really busy here.
+Jan 20 10:45:22 <chen>	dave_largo, cool, will join u there sometime during this week..
+Jan 20 10:45:28 <chen>	jony, updates?
+Jan 20 10:45:34 <jony>	chen: been away from code for a while. pushed event notification . we moved to libmapi 0.9 . will be fixing some bugs from next week.
+Jan 20 10:46:04 <jony>	i may diable push events if i can't fix the CPU bug from evolution-mapi. have a patch for libmapi though . 
+Jan 20 10:46:05 <chen>	jony, thanks
+Jan 20 10:46:07 <chen>	lakhil, updates
+Jan 20 10:46:11 <jony>	*disable
+Jan 20 10:46:32 <lakhil>	chen, testing mapi against libmapi 0.9, sle testing and bug triaging 
+Jan 20 10:46:40 <chen>	jony, ah, do u need to really disable ?
+Jan 20 10:46:58 <chen>	lakhil, cool
+Jan 20 10:47:01 <jony>	chen: not sure .. i'll be looking for a workaround tomorrow .. letz see :) 
+Jan 20 10:47:14 <chen>	jony, fine
+Jan 20 10:47:24 <jonner>	I've made some more progress on the backend split, which you can find here if anybody is interested: http://git.collabora.co.uk/?p=user/jonathon/evolution;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/eds-mailer .  From now on it will be important to start defining the DBus API more concretely.
+Jan 20 10:47:29 *	chen wishes jony fixes it and not disables the awesome feature :)
+Jan 20 10:47:35 <jony>	chen: me too :)
+Jan 20 10:48:03 *	jony notes down jonner 's repo.
+Jan 20 10:48:03 <jonner>	i may be helping out a bit with some mapi stuff in the near future as well
+Jan 20 10:48:14 <jony>	welcome welcome !
+Jan 20 10:48:15 <chen>	jonner, defining the dbus api's should be interesting one :)
+Jan 20 10:48:25 <chen>	jonner, nice!
+Jan 20 10:48:35 <chen>	it definetly needs more people
+Jan 20 10:48:39 <jonner>	if I can get libmapi 0.9 built...
+Jan 20 10:48:53 <chen>	mbarnes, updates?
+Jan 20 10:49:01 <jony>	jonner: mmm .. lemme know if i can help out there .. 
+Jan 20 10:49:07 <dave_largo>	I would gladly accept drop and drag into PDF and Image Gallery here at some point :)
+Jan 20 10:49:17 <mbarnes>	just fixing regressions, mainly
+Jan 20 10:49:18 <abharath>	jonner: http://www.go-evolution.org/MAPIProvider
+Jan 20 10:49:19 <mbarnes>	I was also playing around with llvm and the clang static analyzer last weekend
+Jan 20 10:49:19 <mbarnes>	pretty impressive, despite the false positives
+Jan 20 10:49:19 <mbarnes>	would be cool to integrate it into an automated daily build, somehow
+Jan 20 10:49:19 <mbarnes>	build.gnome.org comes to mind, but I wouldn't know where to start
+Jan 20 10:49:44 <abharath>	most of the steps in there still hold good. Let us know if you face any issues
+Jan 20 10:50:19 <chen>	mbarnes, cool, something like opensuse build service ?
+Jan 20 10:50:34 <jonner>	abharath, ok, thanks.  I've been fighting with getting a newer samba4 installed, I'll see if that page helps me at all
+Jan 20 10:50:55 <chen>	dave_largo, sure, are those patches reviewed?
+Jan 20 10:50:59 <mbarnes>	chen: yeah, something like that.  build.gnome.org seems... well, less than useful from what I've seen
+Jan 20 10:51:04 <chen>	mcrha, updates?
+Jan 20 10:51:08 <mcrha>	on various bugs as usual, also some internal work. but, when you were talking about API/ABI freeze in effect, I added two public functions in eds code, intended to be used in there only, between two files. it doesn't change structure size or anything. It doesn't matter, right?
+Jan 20 10:51:09 <abharath>	jonner: sure
+Jan 20 10:51:12 <jony>	jonner: you can use scripts inside openchange for building samba4. (incase you missed them)
+Jan 20 10:51:22 <jonner>	jony, yes, I did.  I will try that now ;)
+Jan 20 10:51:25 <chen>	mbarnes, ok
+Jan 20 10:51:43 <dave_largo>	chen, DnD pdf was rough but working, Image Gallery had some comments by mbarnes, but needed more work
+Jan 20 10:51:54 <chen>	mcrha, in libcamel or libecal/libebook?
+Jan 20 10:52:11 <mcrha>	libedataserverui/e-name-selector-model.h
+Jan 20 10:52:25 <lakhil>	dave_largo, can you please give me bug id for Image gallery ?
+Jan 20 10:52:26 <chen>	dave_largo, ok, i guess the reworks must be complete before 25th for it to be taken in for 2.30..
+Jan 20 10:52:33 <chen>	as the feature freeze begins then
+Jan 20 10:52:53 <chen>	mcrha, that wont come into API/ABI freeze..
+Jan 20 10:53:14 <mcrha>	ok, thanks, I was just checking to be sure
+Jan 20 10:53:20 <dave_largo>	lakhil https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=567879
+Jan 20 10:53:23 <chen>	cool
+Jan 20 10:53:49 <chen>	that winds up the meeting today..
+Jan 20 10:54:01 <chen>	thanks, everyone
+Jan 20 10:54:19 <chen>	catch you next week same time :)
+Jan 20 10:54:23 <dave_largo>	lahkil, even as it works now...it's a huge help for us
+Jan 20 10:54:31 <mcrha>	bye
+Jan 20 10:54:38 <jony>	later .. /me |out
+Jan 20 10:54:43 *	jony is now known as jony|out
+Jan 20 10:54:51 *	mcrha (~mcrha nat-pool-brq-t redhat com) has left #evolution-meet
+Jan 20 10:54:52 *	chen is now known as chen|brb
+Jan 20 10:55:29 <lakhil>	dave_largo, ah..k
+Jan 20 10:55:40 <dave_largo>	People can't locate these things on the file system
+Jan 20 10:55:47 <dave_largo>	and this lets them just drop and drag them into email
+Jan 20 10:55:55 <dave_largo>	corporate or city logos, emoticons
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