[gnomeweb-wml] Add IRC meeting log for 2009-04-29.
- From: Matthew Barnes <mbarnes src gnome org>
- To: svn-commits-list gnome org
- Subject: [gnomeweb-wml] Add IRC meeting log for 2009-04-29.
- Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2009 07:32:07 -0400 (EDT)
commit b14506b589d7124cfd72adb21ba6c78b70eb3198
Author: Matthew Barnes <mbarnes redhat com>
Date: Wed Apr 29 07:33:11 2009 -0400
Add IRC meeting log for 2009-04-29.
---
projects.gnome.org/evolution/ChangeLog | 6 +
projects.gnome.org/evolution/developer.shtml | 4 +-
.../evolution/meeting-logs/2009-04-29.shtml | 407 ++++++++++++++++++++
.../evolution/meeting-logs/2009-04-29.txt | 392 +++++++++++++++++++
.../evolution/meeting-logs/Makefile.am | 1 +
projects.gnome.org/evolution/meetings.shtml | 3 +-
6 files changed, 810 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
diff --git a/projects.gnome.org/evolution/ChangeLog b/projects.gnome.org/evolution/ChangeLog
index 99ca132..b9d66db 100644
--- a/projects.gnome.org/evolution/ChangeLog
+++ b/projects.gnome.org/evolution/ChangeLog
@@ -1,3 +1,9 @@
+2009-04-29 Matthew Barnes <mbarnes redhat com>
+
+ * developer.shtml:
+ * meetings.shtml:
+ Add IRC meeting log for 2009-04-29.
+
2009-04-22 Matthew Barnes <mbarnes redhat com>
* download.shtml:
diff --git a/projects.gnome.org/evolution/developer.shtml b/projects.gnome.org/evolution/developer.shtml
index 1d8db5d..8c7b8c1 100644
--- a/projects.gnome.org/evolution/developer.shtml
+++ b/projects.gnome.org/evolution/developer.shtml
@@ -67,6 +67,7 @@
<div class="split-half">
<ul>
+ <li><a href="meeting-logs/2009-04-29.shtml">2009-04-29</a></li>
<li><a href="meeting-logs/2009-04-22.shtml">2009-04-22</a></li>
<li>2009-04-15 (no meeting)</li>
<li><a href="meeting-logs/2009-04-08.shtml">2009-04-08</a></li>
@@ -79,7 +80,6 @@
<li>2009-02-18 (no meeting)</li>
<li><a href="meeting-logs/2009-02-11.shtml">2009-02-11</a></li>
<li>2009-02-04 (no meeting)</li>
- <li><a href="meeting-logs/2009-01-28.shtml">2009-01-28</a></li>
</ul>
<div style="clear:both;"> </div>
@@ -89,6 +89,7 @@
<div class="split-half">
<ul>
+ <li><a href="meeting-logs/2009-01-28.shtml">2009-01-28</a></li>
<li><a href="meeting-logs/2009-01-21.shtml">2009-01-21</a></li>
<li>2008-01-14 (no meeting)</li>
<li><a href="meeting-logs/2009-01-07.shtml">2009-01-07</a></li>
@@ -101,7 +102,6 @@
<li><a href="meeting-logs/2008-11-19.shtml">2008-11-19</a></li>
<li><a href="meeting-logs/2008-11-12.shtml">2008-11-12</a></li>
<li><a href="meeting-logs/2008-11-05.shtml">2008-11-05</a></li>
- <li>2008-10-22 (no meeting)</li>
</ul>
</div>
diff --git a/projects.gnome.org/evolution/meeting-logs/2009-04-29.shtml b/projects.gnome.org/evolution/meeting-logs/2009-04-29.shtml
new file mode 100644
index 0000000..4168fa7
--- /dev/null
+++ b/projects.gnome.org/evolution/meeting-logs/2009-04-29.shtml
@@ -0,0 +1,407 @@
+<!--#set var="title" value="IRC Team Meeting - April 29, 2009"-->
+<!--#set var="section" value="developer"-->
+<!--#include virtual="../head.shtml"-->
+
+<h1>IRC Team Meeting - April 29, 2009</h1>
+<div class="irclog">
+<p id="tApr 29 06:06:10" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:06:10" class="time">Apr 29 06:06</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">Hello guys</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:06:52" class="action"><a href="#tApr 29 06:06:52" class="time">Apr 29 06:06</a> *seb128 (~seb128 ANancy-158-1-16-202 w90-40 abo wanadoo fr) has joined #evolution-meet</p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:07:04" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:07:04" class="time">Apr 29 06:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">2.27.1 is moved to next monday as you know, and that gives us some time to get prepared with git</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:07:22" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:07:22" class="time">Apr 29 06:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">but we are shrinking our oustanding patches</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:07:31" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:07:31" class="time">Apr 29 06:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">should be done with most of them pretty soon.</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:07:57" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:07:57" class="time">Apr 29 06:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">I assume, we have some agenda to discuss today, we can get to that asap</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:07:58" class="action"><a href="#tApr 29 06:07:58" class="time">Apr 29 06:07</a> *Fridrich is going to attach patches in bugzilla, because git is a bit above his paygrade for the while :)</p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:08:05" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:08:05" class="time">Apr 29 06:08</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">:)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:08:33" class="action"><a href="#tApr 29 06:08:33" class="time">Apr 29 06:08</a> *srag is yet to commit to Evo/EDS git</p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:08:49" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:08:49" class="time">Apr 29 06:08</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><abharath></span> <span class="text">:)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:08:51" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:08:51" class="time">Apr 29 06:08</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">I have a list of pending things to commit, just that Im mad schedule on Anjal for the next 2 weeks</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:08:59" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:08:59" class="time">Apr 29 06:08</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">I should find some time.</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:09:04" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:09:04" class="time">Apr 29 06:09</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><seb128></span> <span class="text">is anybody still working on 2.26?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:09:07" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:09:07" class="time">Apr 29 06:09</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">I'll quickly move ahead</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:09:12" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:09:12" class="time">Apr 29 06:09</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">seb128, of course..</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:09:29" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:09:29" class="time">Apr 29 06:09</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">we still have two dot releases on stable </span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:09:31" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:09:31" class="time">Apr 29 06:09</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><seb128></span> <span class="text">calendar is quite broken there</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:09:35" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:09:35" class="time">Apr 29 06:09</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">and you will see regular improvements</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:09:41" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:09:41" class="time">Apr 29 06:09</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">chen, are you aware of it ?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:09:42" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:09:42" class="time">Apr 29 06:09</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><chen></span> <span class="text">seb128, whats the issue?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:09:52" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:09:52" class="time">Apr 29 06:09</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><seb128></span> <span class="text">chen: can't edit recursive events</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:10:05" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:10:05" class="time">Apr 29 06:10</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><seb128></span> <span class="text">those are not moved correctly or duplicated</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:10:11" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:10:11" class="time">Apr 29 06:10</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><seb128></span> <span class="text">when evolution doesn't crash</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:10:20" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:10:20" class="time">Apr 29 06:10</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><chen></span> <span class="text">seb128, have u filed any bug?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:10:26" class="action"><a href="#tApr 29 06:10:26" class="time">Apr 29 06:10</a> *jony (~jjohnny 122 167 78 248) has joined #evolution-meet</p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:10:27" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:10:27" class="time">Apr 29 06:10</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><chen></span> <span class="text">seb128, let me know the bug id..</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:10:36" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:10:36" class="time">Apr 29 06:10</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">sure</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:10:42" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:10:42" class="time">Apr 29 06:10</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">lets get around the channel</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:10:42" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:10:42" class="time">Apr 29 06:10</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><seb128></span> <span class="text">chen: <a href="http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=580720";>http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=580720</a></span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:10:42" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:10:42" class="time">Apr 29 06:10</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><jony></span> <span class="text">srag, i made it :) and hello all </span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:10:46" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:10:46" class="time">Apr 29 06:10</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">andre, anything to share with us ?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:10:48" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:10:48" class="time">Apr 29 06:10</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">jony, awesome</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:11:02" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:11:02" class="time">Apr 29 06:11</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><chen></span> <span class="text">seb128, will look into it today</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:11:05" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:11:05" class="time">Apr 29 06:11</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><seb128></span> <span class="text">ups</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:11:12" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:11:12" class="time">Apr 29 06:11</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">abharath, anything to share with us ?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:11:27" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:11:27" class="time">Apr 29 06:11</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a"><andre></span> <span class="text">basically i want the e-d-s dbus port to become default, but there's not the right people here :)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:11:30" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:11:30" class="time">Apr 29 06:11</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><seb128></span> <span class="text">chen: that one was a translation issue, I will give you the correct number in a few minutes</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:11:42" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:11:42" class="time">Apr 29 06:11</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><chen></span> <span class="text">seb128, sure</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:11:44" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:11:44" class="time">Apr 29 06:11</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><abharath></span> <span class="text">srag: We have a rework of external editor now on master</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:11:52" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:11:52" class="time">Apr 29 06:11</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><abharath></span> <span class="text">It works neat and is very lovely</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:11:59" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:11:59" class="time">Apr 29 06:11</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">andre, right. I had poked Ross last week on it, </span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:12:09" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:12:09" class="time">Apr 29 06:12</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">seems like we should see more progress now.</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:12:14" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:12:14" class="time">Apr 29 06:12</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><abharath></span> <span class="text">apart from that some fixes for templates and other issues.</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:12:20" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:12:20" class="time">Apr 29 06:12</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">I realized that a new git branch was created last week</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:12:31" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:12:31" class="time">Apr 29 06:12</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4b904b"><Fridrich></span> <span class="text">but leave the non-dbus solution possible still, because dbus for win32 is not going to be reality for some time still</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:12:49" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:12:49" class="time">Apr 29 06:12</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">Fridrich, we can discuss that out.</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:12:55" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:12:55" class="time">Apr 29 06:12</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><abharath></span> <span class="text">Fridrich: some time ;)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:13:00" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:13:00" class="time">Apr 29 06:13</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a"><andre></span> <span class="text">Fridrich, yeah, but default should be dbus</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:13:07" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:13:07" class="time">Apr 29 06:13</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><chen></span> <span class="text">ah yeah srag i also asked ross about eds-port and the reply was ideally it would be done for 2.27.2 :) so not sure</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:13:16" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:13:16" class="time">Apr 29 06:13</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">right.</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:13:31" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:13:31" class="time">Apr 29 06:13</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">I have more contact with Intel on this, so Im hoping for the best</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:13:38" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:13:38" class="time">Apr 29 06:13</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><chen></span> <span class="text">nice!</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:14:10" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:14:10" class="time">Apr 29 06:14</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #8c4a4a"><andre></span> <span class="text">great</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:14:13" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:14:13" class="time">Apr 29 06:14</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">thx</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:14:18" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:14:18" class="time">Apr 29 06:14</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">bradh, anything to share with us ?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:14:21" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:14:21" class="time">Apr 29 06:14</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">abharath, awesome</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:14:31" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:14:31" class="time">Apr 29 06:14</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">abharath, any reason it can't make to stablke ?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:14:35" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:14:35" class="time">Apr 29 06:14</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">any UI changes ?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:14:46" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:14:46" class="time">Apr 29 06:14</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><abharath></span> <span class="text">srag: some configuration changes yes</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:14:52" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:14:52" class="time">Apr 29 06:14</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">hokay</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:14:52" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:14:52" class="time">Apr 29 06:14</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><abharath></span> <span class="text">plugin configuration</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:15:15" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:15:15" class="time">Apr 29 06:15</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">chen, anything to share with us ?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:15:43" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:15:43" class="time">Apr 29 06:15</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><chen></span> <span class="text">srag, fixing bnc (bugzilla.novell.com) bugs and some customer issues along with some patch reviews</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:15:50" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:15:50" class="time">Apr 29 06:15</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">chen, cool. </span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:16:00" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:16:00" class="time">Apr 29 06:16</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">EvaSDK, anything to share with us ?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:16:56" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:16:56" class="time">Apr 29 06:16</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">Fridrich, anything to share with us ?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:17:22" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:17:22" class="time">Apr 29 06:17</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4d4d93"><bradh></span> <span class="text">sorry, nothing from me</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:17:28" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:17:28" class="time">Apr 29 06:17</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">bradh, thx</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:17:35" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:17:35" class="time">Apr 29 06:17</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">jkerihuel, anything to share with us ?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:17:42" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:17:42" class="time">Apr 29 06:17</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">srag: yes ;-)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:17:47" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:17:47" class="time">Apr 29 06:17</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">jkerihuel, awesome :-)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:17:59" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:17:59" class="time">Apr 29 06:17</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">go ahead</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:18:01" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:18:01" class="time">Apr 29 06:18</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">ok, so let's start with development oriented things first</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:18:06" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:18:06" class="time">Apr 29 06:18</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">sure</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:18:14" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:18:14" class="time">Apr 29 06:18</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">1. we have 2 students working on openchange as part of GSoC 2009</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:18:31" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:18:31" class="time">Apr 29 06:18</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><jony></span> <span class="text">(oh .. i thought 3 projects ) </span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:18:42" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:18:42" class="time">Apr 29 06:18</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">and their work (if successful) should at some point be worthwhile enough to enter gnome desktop</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:18:44" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:18:44" class="time">Apr 29 06:18</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">jony: yeah 3</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:19:00" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:19:00" class="time">Apr 29 06:19</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">nice</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:19:01" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:19:01" class="time">Apr 29 06:19</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">but the 3rd one is a bit unrelated to gnome (in some way - thunderbird integration)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:19:13" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:19:13" class="time">Apr 29 06:19</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">1st project: GUI frontend for openchange tools</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:19:26" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:19:26" class="time">Apr 29 06:19</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><seb128></span> <span class="text">chen: <a href="http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=580724";>http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=580724</a></span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:19:27" class="action"><a href="#tApr 29 06:19:27" class="time">Apr 29 06:19</a> *chen looks at it</p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:19:32" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:19:32" class="time">Apr 29 06:19</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">which basically means: mapiprofile applet for gnome/kde system tool</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:19:40" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:19:40" class="time">Apr 29 06:19</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">openchangepfadmin and mapiproxy</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:19:50" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:19:50" class="time">Apr 29 06:19</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">the one that may really matters here is mapiprofile</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:20:18" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:20:18" class="time">Apr 29 06:20</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">I'd like as much as possible to extract to sync the ema account setup and this work, so there's a common database for all apps</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:20:51" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:20:51" class="time">Apr 29 06:20</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">let's say you use ema for email/calendar but prefer kontact for contacts (and all of them have openchange support), it would be nice for the user not to have to define different profiles databases</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:21:20" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:21:20" class="time">Apr 29 06:21</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><chen></span> <span class="text">ema?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:21:28" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:21:28" class="time">Apr 29 06:21</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4b904b"><Fridrich></span> <span class="text">evo-mapi</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:21:35" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:21:35" class="time">Apr 29 06:21</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">chen: sorry learned mcrha acronyms ;-)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:21:37" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:21:37" class="time">Apr 29 06:21</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><chen></span> <span class="text">ok :)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:21:41" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:21:41" class="time">Apr 29 06:21</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><abharath></span> <span class="text">:)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:21:42" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:21:42" class="time">Apr 29 06:21</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">:)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:22:02" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:22:02" class="time">Apr 29 06:22</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">so if we could find in a near future a way to sync on this, that would be nice</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:22:03" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:22:03" class="time">Apr 29 06:22</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">jkerihuel, sure.</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:22:11" class="action"><a href="#tApr 29 06:22:11" class="time">Apr 29 06:22</a> *jony has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))</p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:22:15" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:22:15" class="time">Apr 29 06:22</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">among things I'd like to see: the possibility for the user to select between a list of profiles</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:22:18" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:22:18" class="time">Apr 29 06:22</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">what sort of sync you expect ?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:22:21" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:22:21" class="time">Apr 29 06:22</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">set the default one etc.</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:22:33" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:22:33" class="time">Apr 29 06:22</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">a sync in term of database location (mostly)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:22:39" class="action"><a href="#tApr 29 06:22:39" class="time">Apr 29 06:22</a> *jony (~jjohnny 122 167 78 248) has joined #evolution-meet</p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:22:44" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:22:44" class="time">Apr 29 06:22</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">sure.</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:23:04" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:23:04" class="time">Apr 29 06:23</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">something that is painful for users atm is when they come to fill bug reports</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:23:20" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:23:20" class="time">Apr 29 06:23</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">and we ask them to use openchange tools to detect whether the bug is ours or ema related only</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:23:33" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:23:33" class="time">Apr 29 06:23</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">jkerihuel, the current model is we hide profile to the users</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:23:42" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:23:42" class="time">Apr 29 06:23</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">since we didn't want to complicate the UI</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:24:11" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:24:11" class="time">Apr 29 06:24</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">srag: yeah I can understand this ;-)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:24:16" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:24:16" class="time">Apr 29 06:24</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">and it currently lies inside .evolution</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:24:28" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:24:28" class="time">Apr 29 06:24</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><jony></span> <span class="text">jkerihuel, want the profile.ldb to be in a common place rather than ~/.evolution</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:24:32" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:24:32" class="time">Apr 29 06:24</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><jony></span> <span class="text">?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:24:36" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:24:36" class="time">Apr 29 06:24</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">jony: correct</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:24:42" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:24:42" class="time">Apr 29 06:24</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">for general-purpose benefits</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:24:44" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:24:44" class="time">Apr 29 06:24</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">may be ~/.mapi-profiles.ldb</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:25:22" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:25:22" class="time">Apr 29 06:25</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">it is not an urgent task, just wanted to place a reminder on this so it is not forgotten next</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:25:25" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:25:25" class="time">Apr 29 06:25</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><jony></span> <span class="text">this should be a simple change .. :) and shouldn't hurt evolution at all .. </span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:25:28" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:25:28" class="time">Apr 29 06:25</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">sure.</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:25:35" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:25:35" class="time">Apr 29 06:25</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">jony, may be some migration for 2.26 users</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:25:42" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:25:42" class="time">Apr 29 06:25</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text"> in 2.28</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:25:46" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:25:46" class="time">Apr 29 06:25</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><jony></span> <span class="text">right .. </span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:25:47" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:25:47" class="time">Apr 29 06:25</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">srag: also some users tends to use mapiprofile instead of ema in some cases - e.g.: when they have ambiguous names</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:26:07" class="action"><a href="#tApr 29 06:26:07" class="time">Apr 29 06:26</a> *You are now known as mbarnes</p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:26:25" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:26:25" class="time">Apr 29 06:26</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">that is only meant to be temp, but solves some issues and can help decreasing importance of such issues in trackers/bugzillas</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:26:36" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:26:36" class="time">Apr 29 06:26</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">the other project is about exchange2ical tool</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:26:43" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:26:43" class="time">Apr 29 06:26</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">mentored by bradh</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:26:57" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:26:57" class="time">Apr 29 06:26</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">nice</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:26:59" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:26:59" class="time">Apr 29 06:26</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">which should - if successful - be dual calendar sync exchange <-> ical</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:27:05" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:27:05" class="time">Apr 29 06:27</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">and will rely on libical</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:27:22" class="action"><a href="#tApr 29 06:27:22" class="time">Apr 29 06:27</a> *jony has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))</p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:27:27" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:27:27" class="time">Apr 29 06:27</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">the upstream libical irght?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:27:40" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:27:40" class="time">Apr 29 06:27</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">jkerihuel, ^^ ?></span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:27:41" class="action"><a href="#tApr 29 06:27:41" class="time">Apr 29 06:27</a> *jony (~jjohnny 122 167 78 248) has joined #evolution-meet</p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:27:45" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:27:45" class="time">Apr 29 06:27</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">so question: very probably - up to bradh to answer this one</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:28:01" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:28:01" class="time">Apr 29 06:28</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">the exchange2ical code should be refactored into some library</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:28:23" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:28:23" class="time">Apr 29 06:28</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">so question: when we come to have this code ready, would you like to use it for offline storage?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:28:35" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:28:35" class="time">Apr 29 06:28</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">or would it have a lot of impact on evolution storage semantics</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:28:46" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:28:46" class="time">Apr 29 06:28</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><jony></span> <span class="text">chen ^? </span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:28:49" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:28:49" class="time">Apr 29 06:28</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><chen></span> <span class="text">seb128, just tried the operations in trunk and seems to work fine. will checkout 2.6.x (need to build). could be some missing patch</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:28:56" class="action"><a href="#tApr 29 06:28:56" class="time">Apr 29 06:28</a> *chen reads the logs</p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:29:07" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:29:07" class="time">Apr 29 06:29</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><seb128></span> <span class="text">chen: ok thanks</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:29:22" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:29:22" class="time">Apr 29 06:29</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><seb128></span> <span class="text">chen: I confirmed on 2 boxes and mcrha said it doesn't work for him either</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:29:43" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:29:43" class="time">Apr 29 06:29</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">jkerihuel, the point is, we already have an implementation for this</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:29:58" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:29:58" class="time">Apr 29 06:29</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">I would be happy if the code in evolution is picked up and refactored as library</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:30:04" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:30:04" class="time">Apr 29 06:30</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">srag: a complete exchange 2 ical ?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:30:07" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:30:07" class="time">Apr 29 06:30</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #9b519b"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">seb128, chen yup, it didn't, on trunk/master</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:30:09" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:30:09" class="time">Apr 29 06:30</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4d4d93"><bradh></span> <span class="text">srag: the exchange2ical plan is to ahve a lib that talks libical on one side and exchange on the other side.</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:30:17" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:30:17" class="time">Apr 29 06:30</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">with the 100% mapping as described in MS specs</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:30:29" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:30:29" class="time">Apr 29 06:30</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">jkerihuel, not sure on the MS specs,</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:30:29" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:30:29" class="time">Apr 29 06:30</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4d4d93"><bradh></span> <span class="text">so it effectively implements all of MS-OXOICAL</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:30:55" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:30:55" class="time">Apr 29 06:30</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><chen></span> <span class="text">seb128, mcrha : will build 2.26.x and fix it up</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:30:57" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:30:57" class="time">Apr 29 06:30</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4d4d93"><bradh></span> <span class="text">then exchange2ical just does a local store and sync</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:31:02" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:31:02" class="time">Apr 29 06:31</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><seb128></span> <span class="text">chen: thanks</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:31:09" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:31:09" class="time">Apr 29 06:31</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><chen></span> <span class="text">seb128, np</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:31:14" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:31:14" class="time">Apr 29 06:31</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><jony></span> <span class="text">bradh, this includes recurrence / meetings / and all the variations ? </span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:31:34" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:31:34" class="time">Apr 29 06:31</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">may be I need to understand more on the aspects of exchange2ical</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:31:40" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:31:40" class="time">Apr 29 06:31</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #539e9e"><EvaSDK></span> <span class="text">srag: nope</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:31:53" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:31:53" class="time">Apr 29 06:31</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">jkerihuel, how would you think, it would affect Evo, in code..</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:32:00" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:32:00" class="time">Apr 29 06:32</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">meaning, how could Evo use it ?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:32:07" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:32:07" class="time">Apr 29 06:32</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4d4d93"><bradh></span> <span class="text">jony: we already have recurrence implemented (in exchange->ical direction), just needs polish and packaging up.</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:32:58" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:32:58" class="time">Apr 29 06:32</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">is it just about get/put of ical ?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:33:02" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:33:02" class="time">Apr 29 06:33</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">srag: I'm not sure yet, we obviously need to discuss this later when we have some of the code we discussed above ready</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:33:10" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:33:10" class="time">Apr 29 06:33</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><jony></span> <span class="text">evolution -> exchange2ical -> libical ? </span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:33:10" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:33:10" class="time">Apr 29 06:33</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">or does it deal with individual events on a existing cal ?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:33:13" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:33:13" class="time">Apr 29 06:33</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4d4d93"><bradh></span> <span class="text">you'll basically be able to say "give me meeting matching Message ID" and it will give you back an ical data structure.</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:33:23" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:33:23" class="time">Apr 29 06:33</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">jkerihuel, sure</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:33:38" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:33:38" class="time">Apr 29 06:33</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">bradh is the one to be in the loop for this one ;-)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:33:41" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:33:41" class="time">Apr 29 06:33</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><jony></span> <span class="text">srag, one concern i would have here is the number of connections .. </span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:33:48" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:33:48" class="time">Apr 29 06:33</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">jony, sure</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:34:12" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:34:12" class="time">Apr 29 06:34</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">shall I move to the next point/topic?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:34:22" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:34:22" class="time">Apr 29 06:34</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4d4d93"><bradh></span> <span class="text">well, right now you have to get all the properties and convert them.</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:34:24" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:34:24" class="time">Apr 29 06:34</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">jkerihuel, sure.</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:34:32" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:34:32" class="time">Apr 29 06:34</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">ok exchange 2007 support</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:34:33" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:34:33" class="time">Apr 29 06:34</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">bradh, we can discuss in detail later on</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:34:45" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:34:45" class="time">Apr 29 06:34</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4d4d93"><bradh></span> <span class="text">srag: np. ask when ready.</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:34:46" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:34:46" class="time">Apr 29 06:34</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #854685"><chen></span> <span class="text">bradh, does that mean using this tool, evolution can speak ical with exchange both ways ?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:35:17" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:35:17" class="time">Apr 29 06:35</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">currently we are using exchange 2000 (xormagic) calls and it sometimes cause troubles to users within a exchange 2007 environment with no rollback compatibility</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:35:28" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:35:28" class="time">Apr 29 06:35</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">ok</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:35:36" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:35:36" class="time">Apr 29 06:35</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">I intend to change this on mid-term and mix openchange libmapi stack so we can have native exch2k7 support too</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:35:45" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:35:45" class="time">Apr 29 06:35</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">sounds awesome</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:35:54" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:35:54" class="time">Apr 29 06:35</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">and fallback to existing stack in case it doesn't work / is not supported</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:36:03" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:36:03" class="time">Apr 29 06:36</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">I've also been working on clustered exchange environment</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:36:04" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:36:04" class="time">Apr 29 06:36</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><jony></span> <span class="text">ncie ! </span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:36:12" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:36:12" class="time">Apr 29 06:36</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">nice</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:36:22" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:36:22" class="time">Apr 29 06:36</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">so users shouldn't encounter anymore ecWrongServer errors</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:36:36" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:36:36" class="time">Apr 29 06:36</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">right, its a common question on the list I guess</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:36:44" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:36:44" class="time">Apr 29 06:36</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">there may still be some special cases not handled but at least should work with most users</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:36:51" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:36:51" class="time">Apr 29 06:36</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">it is already in openchange trunk</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:36:58" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:36:58" class="time">Apr 29 06:36</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">ok</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:37:00" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:37:00" class="time">Apr 29 06:37</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">so this leads to the next point:</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:37:12" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:37:12" class="time">Apr 29 06:37</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">what about ema/openchange libs version sync?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:37:20" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:37:20" class="time">Apr 29 06:37</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">how can we get sure we keep updated?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:37:26" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:37:26" class="time">Apr 29 06:37</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">jkerihuel, for GNOME 2.28, we can update the versions</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:37:27" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:37:27" class="time">Apr 29 06:37</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">how does this impact distributions?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:37:36" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:37:36" class="time">Apr 29 06:37</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">distros would adopt to it</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:38:10" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:38:10" class="time">Apr 29 06:38</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">infact, I was looking at bringing in 0.8.2 for gnome 2-26 stable, but yet to receive a nod from jony on the level of changes/risk</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:38:31" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:38:31" class="time">Apr 29 06:38</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">iirc, seb128 was not in favour of changing the deps on the stable branch, but we first need to see, where we would stand</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:38:42" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:38:42" class="time">Apr 29 06:38</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">srag: I expect OpenChange to be able to release a new version within a month or so</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:38:47" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:38:47" class="time">Apr 29 06:38</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><seb128></span> <span class="text">I just said updating to 0.8.2 would not work for jaunty</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:38:49" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:38:49" class="time">Apr 29 06:38</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><jony></span> <span class="text">:) will get this done before next meet. (/me has some internal time consuming tasks) </span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:38:54" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:38:54" class="time">Apr 29 06:38</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><seb128></span> <span class="text">0.8 to 0.8.2 is not a trivial update</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:38:59" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:38:59" class="time">Apr 29 06:38</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">seb128, sure</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:39:06" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:39:06" class="time">Apr 29 06:39</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">seb128: yeah correct</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:39:29" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:39:29" class="time">Apr 29 06:39</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">jkerihuel, would we have a version of Samba/OpenChange/libmapi for GNOME 2.28 to depend on soon ?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:39:32" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:39:32" class="time">Apr 29 06:39</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">all three synced</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:39:34" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:39:34" class="time">Apr 29 06:39</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">what makes it pretty "not ubuntu convenient" is that a lot of server-side code was added</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:39:55" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:39:55" class="time">Apr 29 06:39</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">srag: probably, we are looking for a new samba4 version in a while samba4-alpha8</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:40:02" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:40:02" class="time">Apr 29 06:40</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">ok. </span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:40:07" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:40:07" class="time">Apr 29 06:40</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">which we'll be using for the next openchange release</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:40:11" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:40:11" class="time">Apr 29 06:40</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">I assume your new version would have some samba deps</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:40:25" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:40:25" class="time">Apr 29 06:40</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">as you know, GNOME wants a tarball/version to depend on than revs</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:40:33" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:40:33" class="time">Apr 29 06:40</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">srag: afaik no other deps than the ones already packaged/existing</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:40:46" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:40:46" class="time">Apr 29 06:40</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">oh.. interesting</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:40:51" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:40:51" class="time">Apr 29 06:40</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">afaik mbarnes/simo are working on this part</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:41:02" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:41:02" class="time">Apr 29 06:41</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">meaning htat with existing samba, and new libmapi, it would be fine ?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:41:12" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:41:12" class="time">Apr 29 06:41</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">yes</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:41:21" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:41:21" class="time">Apr 29 06:41</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">that would make things a lot easier</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:41:25" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:41:25" class="time">Apr 29 06:41</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">however we'll increased the major version for next release</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:41:35" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:41:35" class="time">Apr 29 06:41</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">there are a few API changes (regarding notifications)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:41:39" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:41:39" class="time">Apr 29 06:41</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">that require us to do so</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:42:00" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:42:00" class="time">Apr 29 06:42</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">are there any changes that Evo should adopt to?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:42:01" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:42:01" class="time">Apr 29 06:42</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">however no incompatibility regarding the API ema already uses</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:42:12" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:42:12" class="time">Apr 29 06:42</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><jony></span> <span class="text">we are not using any sort of notifications as of now . .so should be fine . </span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:42:14" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:42:14" class="time">Apr 29 06:42</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">that answers it</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:42:23" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:42:23" class="time">Apr 29 06:42</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">jony, we should be looking at very soon</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:42:28" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:42:28" class="time">Apr 29 06:42</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">srag: maybe a few proto, but nothing really meaningful</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:42:33" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:42:33" class="time">Apr 29 06:42</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">cool.</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:42:41" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:42:41" class="time">Apr 29 06:42</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><jony></span> <span class="text">srag, sure .. </span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:42:49" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:42:49" class="time">Apr 29 06:42</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">that should be no problem IMO, we can depend on 0.9 (?) once thatz released, after I get a nod from the gnome release team</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:43:08" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:43:08" class="time">Apr 29 06:43</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">srag: fair enough</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:43:31" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:43:31" class="time">Apr 29 06:43</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">last point I wanted to check with you is about all the bugs report</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:43:39" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:43:39" class="time">Apr 29 06:43</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">I'm starting getting lost to be honest</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:43:46" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:43:46" class="time">Apr 29 06:43</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">:)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:43:54" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:43:54" class="time">Apr 29 06:43</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">gnome bugzilla, launchpad, redhat bugzilla</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:44:20" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:44:20" class="time">Apr 29 06:44</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">I do not automatically receive notifications for those who may impact openchange, (except launchpad)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:44:30" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:44:30" class="time">Apr 29 06:44</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">this makes the sync in fixing bugs a but difficult</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:44:42" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:44:42" class="time">Apr 29 06:44</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">would you have any suggestions/pointers on how this could be improved?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:44:54" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:44:54" class="time">Apr 29 06:44</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><jony></span> <span class="text">hmm .. been working on internal tasks .. but i think i should be able to spend more time on MAPI from few days .. </span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:45:12" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:45:12" class="time">Apr 29 06:45</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">jkerihuel, my preference would be to bring issues to upstream</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:45:16" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:45:16" class="time">Apr 29 06:45</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">and track from there,</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:45:22" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:45:22" class="time">Apr 29 06:45</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">which is how, we handle most of hte things</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:45:45" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:45:45" class="time">Apr 29 06:45</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">ok so gnome bugzilla should be ref nb 1?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:46:07" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:46:07" class="time">Apr 29 06:46</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">I would believe so, unless seb128 mbarnes mcrha have some thoughts against it.</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:46:23" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:46:23" class="time">Apr 29 06:46</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #9b519b"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">nope, usually upstream things from the rh bugzilla</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:46:36" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:46:36" class="time">Apr 29 06:46</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><seb128></span> <span class="text">I usually send bugs upstream too</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:46:44" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:46:44" class="time">Apr 29 06:46</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">cool, that makes it easier</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:46:48" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:46:48" class="time">Apr 29 06:46</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4d4d93"><bradh></span> <span class="text">so you'll push stuff to openchange trac?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:47:04" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:47:04" class="time">Apr 29 06:47</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #9b519b"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">jony, is there any virtual mapi user jkerihuel can watch to?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:47:20" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:47:20" class="time">Apr 29 06:47</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><seb128></span> <span class="text">oh, openchange, I'm not working on that, the ubuntu packages come from debian</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:47:23" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:47:23" class="time">Apr 29 06:47</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">mcrha, jkerihuel we can add jkerihuel part of mapi bug list</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:47:26" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:47:26" class="time">Apr 29 06:47</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><jony></span> <span class="text">i use rss to track .. </span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:47:39" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:47:39" class="time">Apr 29 06:47</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><seb128></span> <span class="text">but I can ask the ubuntu server team to try to do that</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:48:00" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:48:00" class="time">Apr 29 06:48</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">cool.</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:48:19" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:48:19" class="time">Apr 29 06:48</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">thx</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:48:20" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:48:20" class="time">Apr 29 06:48</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">jkerihuel, I can get you part of Evo/MAPI bugs, from where, you can take your bugs to OpenChange</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:48:32" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:48:32" class="time">Apr 29 06:48</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">if they aren't EMA </span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:48:33" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:48:33" class="time">Apr 29 06:48</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">srag: that would be great</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:48:37" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:48:37" class="time">Apr 29 06:48</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">awesome</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:48:49" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:48:49" class="time">Apr 29 06:48</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">anything more jkerihuel ?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:48:54" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:48:54" class="time">Apr 29 06:48</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">ok, nothing more to share yet ;-)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:49:01" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:49:01" class="time">Apr 29 06:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">thanks a lot jkerihuel </span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:49:05" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:49:05" class="time">Apr 29 06:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">jony, anything to discuss ?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:49:38" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:49:38" class="time">Apr 29 06:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">lakhil, anything to share with us ?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:49:46" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:49:46" class="time">Apr 29 06:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><jony></span> <span class="text">srag, hmm nothing much .. help up in internal tasks (keep saying this for a longtime .. ) and i should be able to work on mapi a bit more from few days </span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:49:51" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:49:51" class="time">Apr 29 06:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #488888"><jony></span> <span class="text">s/help/held</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:49:59" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:49:59" class="time">Apr 29 06:49</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><lakhil></span> <span class="text">sle related stuff, testing on evolution-mapi with libmapi trunk (mostly towards memory related issue), bug triaging and have started with anjal </span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:50:02" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:50:02" class="time">Apr 29 06:50</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">nice</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:50:21" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:50:21" class="time">Apr 29 06:50</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">lakhil, I had requested a bugzilla for Anjal, should be there soon.</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:50:32" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:50:32" class="time">Apr 29 06:50</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><lakhil></span> <span class="text">that will be great </span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:50:44" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:50:44" class="time">Apr 29 06:50</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #97974f"><jkerihuel></span> <span class="text">lakhil, cool. feel free to put me in the loop if you have comments/critics</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:50:44" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:50:44" class="time">Apr 29 06:50</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">mbarnes, morning :-) anything to share with us ?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:50:51" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:50:51" class="time">Apr 29 06:50</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #57a657"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">landed the attachment rewrite for 2.27.1, so watch out for bugs there</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:50:51" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:50:51" class="time">Apr 29 06:50</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #57a657"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">now I'm back to kill-bonobo hacking</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:50:51" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:50:51" class="time">Apr 29 06:50</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #57a657"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">lakhil has been testing and filing bugs on it (thanks, btw)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:50:51" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:50:51" class="time">Apr 29 06:50</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #57a657"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">anyone else is welcome to as well</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:50:58" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:50:58" class="time">Apr 29 06:50</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><lakhil></span> <span class="text">jkerihuel, sure </span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:51:05" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:51:05" class="time">Apr 29 06:51</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">mbarnes, awesome</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:51:08" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:51:08" class="time">Apr 29 06:51</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><lakhil></span> <span class="text">mbarnes, most welcome :) </span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:51:26" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:51:26" class="time">Apr 29 06:51</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">mbarnes, I like the idea, of cut and merge small portions of KB, </span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:51:28" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:51:28" class="time">Apr 29 06:51</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><seb128></span> <span class="text">mbarnes: how far is that one to land to trunk?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:52:16" class="action"><a href="#tApr 29 06:52:16" class="time">Apr 29 06:52</a> *jony is now known as jony|afk</p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:52:27" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:52:27" class="time">Apr 29 06:52</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #57a657"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">seb128: I still have a lot of work to do on the calendar. haven't lost hope for 2.27.3 but the the deadline's approaching fast</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:52:40" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:52:40" class="time">Apr 29 06:52</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">thx mbarnes and all the best</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:52:46" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:52:46" class="time">Apr 29 06:52</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">mcrha, anything to share with us ?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:52:49" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:52:49" class="time">Apr 29 06:52</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #9b519b"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">just committed bunch of patches to git, which leads me to discussing about changelogs and commit messages. Any consensus on evo-family side already?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:53:16" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:53:16" class="time">Apr 29 06:53</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">we can ditch ChangeLogs, Im in favor of it.</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:53:25" class="action"><a href="#tApr 29 06:53:25" class="time">Apr 29 06:53</a> *mbarnes has already stopped updating ChangeLogs</p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:53:26" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:53:26" class="time">Apr 29 06:53</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">we can have a format for git commit logs</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:53:30" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:53:30" class="time">Apr 29 06:53</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">cool.</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:53:39" class="action"><a href="#tApr 29 06:53:39" class="time">Apr 29 06:53</a> *srag was asked this, but wanted to take a decision on this meeting</p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:53:47" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:53:47" class="time">Apr 29 06:53</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">is anyone against this model ?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:54:03" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:54:03" class="time">Apr 29 06:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #9b519b"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">what will be a format for git commit messages?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:54:09" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:54:09" class="time">Apr 29 06:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><seb128></span> <span class="text"><a href="http://live.gnome.org/Git/CommitMessages";>http://live.gnome.org/Git/CommitMessages</a></span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:54:20" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:54:20" class="time">Apr 29 06:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #5959a9"><jony|afk></span> <span class="text">my concern would be what if after few years we move to a new VCS ? </span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:54:20" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:54:20" class="time">Apr 29 06:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #9b519b"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">what will be a format for git commit messages in evo?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:54:37" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:54:37" class="time">Apr 29 06:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">mcrha, I have some format, specially that helps NEWS generation</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:54:38" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:54:38" class="time">Apr 29 06:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #57a657"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">it if make it official we should rename all the ChangeLog files</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:54:45" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:54:45" class="time">Apr 29 06:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #57a657"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">ChangeLog.pre-2.27 or something</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:54:47" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:54:47" class="time">Apr 29 06:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #5959a9"><jony|afk></span> <span class="text">and changelogs are much easier way for finding information than going through git commit logs </span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:54:52" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:54:52" class="time">Apr 29 06:54</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">mbarnes, sure</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:55:17" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:55:17" class="time">Apr 29 06:55</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #9b519b"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">srag, "some format" sounds very promising ;)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:55:22" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:55:22" class="time">Apr 29 06:55</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">jony|afk, I assume, we can extract them, at some point, if we really want.</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:55:35" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:55:35" class="time">Apr 29 06:55</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">mcrha, basically, <a href="http://live.gnome.org/Git/CommitMessages";>http://live.gnome.org/Git/CommitMessages</a> looks simple</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:55:56" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:55:56" class="time">Apr 29 06:55</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">I want the [Short tag] to be specificed with some tags, which would go automatically for NEWS</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:56:04" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:56:04" class="time">Apr 29 06:56</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">so that we give meaning ful NEWS files</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:56:13" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:56:13" class="time">Apr 29 06:56</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">I guess the dev is the best guy, to write an entry for NEWS</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:56:15" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:56:15" class="time">Apr 29 06:56</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #5959a9"><jony|afk></span> <span class="text">srag, imho changelog files : i just open it up and search for some phrase . .</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:56:27" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:56:27" class="time">Apr 29 06:56</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #9b519b"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">ok, if following that, and no special ChangeLog entries anywhere, then why not. I'm fine with that</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:56:30" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:56:30" class="time">Apr 29 06:56</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #5959a9"><jony|afk></span> <span class="text">not sure how i would be able to do that (easy) in git logs</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:56:47" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:56:47" class="time">Apr 29 06:56</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><seb128></span> <span class="text">there is some discussion on d-d-l about ChangeLog too</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:57:06" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:57:06" class="time">Apr 29 06:57</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><seb128></span> <span class="text">and some piece of code to autogenerate those from git log</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:57:09" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:57:09" class="time">Apr 29 06:57</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #9b519b"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">srag, eh, what kind of tag do you mean?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:57:34" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:57:34" class="time">Apr 29 06:57</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">Currently we have something like '** fix for bug #?'</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:57:49" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:57:49" class="time">Apr 29 06:57</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><seb128></span> <span class="text">"git log --date=short --pretty=format:"@@@@%cd %an <%ae>%n%n%s%n%n%b" |</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:57:49" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:57:49" class="time">Apr 29 06:57</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><seb128></span> <span class="text">perl -ne 'if (/^\s*$/) { if (!$blank) { print; $blank=1; } } else</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:57:49" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:57:49" class="time">Apr 29 06:57</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><seb128></span> <span class="text">{$blank=0; if (!s/^@@@@// && !/^\t/) { print "\t"; } print; }'"</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:57:53" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:57:53" class="time">Apr 29 06:57</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><seb128></span> <span class="text">was suggested on the list</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:58:00" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:58:00" class="time">Apr 29 06:58</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><seb128></span> <span class="text">which gives a format similar to the current one</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:58:18" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:58:18" class="time">Apr 29 06:58</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">instead, ** BUGFIX: #NUM - Fixes the crash while loading calendar foo</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:58:45" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:58:45" class="time">Apr 29 06:58</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><abharath></span> <span class="text">srag: that would make the work for generating NEWS too simple ;)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:58:50" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:58:50" class="time">Apr 29 06:58</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">or something line ** FEATURE: Adds support for Smartcard auth</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:58:55" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:58:55" class="time">Apr 29 06:58</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4b904b"><Fridrich></span> <span class="text">and for commit that doesn't have bugzilla entry?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:59:00" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:59:00" class="time">Apr 29 06:59</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4b904b"><Fridrich></span> <span class="text">ah, ok</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:59:12" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:59:12" class="time">Apr 29 06:59</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #9b519b"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">less than 80 chars on the first line, right?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:59:16" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:59:16" class="time">Apr 29 06:59</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">Fridrich, if you think that not worth mentioning, leave that ** entry at all</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:59:32" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:59:32" class="time">Apr 29 06:59</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #57a657"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">yeah, drop the **</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 06:59:36" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 06:59:36" class="time">Apr 29 06:59</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">that would help us to generate good NEWS files, useful for users/distro maintainers</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:00:00" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:00:00" class="time">Apr 29 07:00</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4b904b"><Fridrich></span> <span class="text">ah,ok, it is not mandatory</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:00:26" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:00:26" class="time">Apr 29 07:00</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">we can make a template, and add this to Evo, lets make the template and make it part of our git</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:00:45" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:00:45" class="time">Apr 29 07:00</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">oops, repetition</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:00:46" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:00:46" class="time">Apr 29 07:00</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4b904b"><Fridrich></span> <span class="text">actually, can someone commit this for me before I learn git? <a href="http://www.go-oo.org/~fridrich/win32/evolution-2.26.0-fileuri.patch";>http://www.go-oo.org/~fridrich/win32/evolution-2.26.0-fileuri.patch</a></span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:01:13" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:01:13" class="time">Apr 29 07:01</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">does the format sounds fine for every one ?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:01:29" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:01:29" class="time">Apr 29 07:01</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #9b519b"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">one thing, th e bugfix, if it's a different bug than gnome?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:01:49" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:01:49" class="time">Apr 29 07:01</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #57a657"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">srag: for bugfixes, could we instead just copy-n-paste the Bugzilla title? (Bug nnnnnn - Bug summary goes here)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:02:23" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:02:23" class="time">Apr 29 07:02</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">BUGFIX is the keyword, we can have #F00(BNC) - fixes baa</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:02:31" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:02:31" class="time">Apr 29 07:02</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">mbarnes, it won't be meaning ful always</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:02:43" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:02:43" class="time">Apr 29 07:02</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">mbarnes, we should have some one correcting the titles then</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:02:53" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:02:53" class="time">Apr 29 07:02</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">at times, its not even english </span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:03:04" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:03:04" class="time">Apr 29 07:03</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><abharath></span> <span class="text">and for bnc bugs, plz add the description as part of the longer explanation please</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:03:25" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:03:25" class="time">Apr 29 07:03</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #57a657"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">well, -we- should be doing that. at the very least when we close the bug</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:03:54" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:03:54" class="time">Apr 29 07:03</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">mbarnes, we can do either way. </span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:04:00" class="action"><a href="#tApr 29 07:04:00" class="time">Apr 29 07:04</a> *mcrha is lazy and bad in wording</p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:04:22" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:04:22" class="time">Apr 29 07:04</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">mcrha, you are going for english classes, so you would be better then ;-)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:04:35" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:04:35" class="time">Apr 29 07:04</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">seb128, anything to share with us ?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:04:44" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:04:44" class="time">Apr 29 07:04</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #9b519b"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">srag, it would be nice if so</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:04:45" class="action"><a href="#tApr 29 07:04:45" class="time">Apr 29 07:04</a> *srag has one question to seb128 & mbarnes at the end.</p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:04:48" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:04:48" class="time">Apr 29 07:04</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #57a657"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">I mean if we're gonna have to summarize the bug in one line anyway, may as well update the Bugzilla summary to match, right?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:05:23" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:05:23" class="time">Apr 29 07:05</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><seb128></span> <span class="text">srag: not really</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:05:28" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:05:28" class="time">Apr 29 07:05</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">mbarnes, since we have a short commit msg, we can add it part of it. git helps to commit offline</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:05:30" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:05:30" class="time">Apr 29 07:05</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><seb128></span> <span class="text">tracking some calendar issues in 2.26</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:05:39" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:05:39" class="time">Apr 29 07:05</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #9b519b"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">mbarnes, srag, I either write what I fixed or what's the impact on user/what they see</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:05:41" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:05:41" class="time">Apr 29 07:05</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">seb128, mbarnes I have a question for you </span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:05:43" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:05:43" class="time">Apr 29 07:05</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><seb128></span> <span class="text">there is quite some libical crash cases too</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:05:50" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:05:50" class="time">Apr 29 07:05</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><seb128></span> <span class="text">srag: yes?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:06:06" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:06:06" class="time">Apr 29 07:06</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #9b519b"><mcrha></span> <span class="text">mbarnes, srag, never ever both</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:06:20" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:06:20" class="time">Apr 29 07:06</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">Im splitting libevolution-mail-component.so and creating libevolution-mail-share.so</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:06:37" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:06:37" class="time">Apr 29 07:06</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">Is it fine, if I take it to stable branch also ?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:06:58" class="action"><a href="#tApr 29 07:06:58" class="time">Apr 29 07:06</a> *chen has quit (Leaving)</p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:07:04" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:07:04" class="time">Apr 29 07:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">I know, for 2.26.2 packaging you might have to do some extra packaging</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:07:16" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:07:16" class="time">Apr 29 07:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><seb128></span> <span class="text">srag: there is no such .so right now?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:07:22" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:07:22" class="time">Apr 29 07:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">seb128, right</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:07:31" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:07:31" class="time">Apr 29 07:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">Anjal would need that -share.so,</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:07:35" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:07:35" class="time">Apr 29 07:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><seb128></span> <span class="text">you mean libevolution-mail.so?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:07:41" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:07:41" class="time">Apr 29 07:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">seb128, right :-)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:07:43" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:07:43" class="time">Apr 29 07:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #4b904b"><Fridrich></span> <span class="text">srag: when is 2.26.2 due?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:07:49" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:07:49" class="time">Apr 29 07:07</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><seb128></span> <span class="text">it's not a shared library so that should be no issue</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:08:03" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:08:03" class="time">Apr 29 07:08</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">Fridrich, May 18</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:08:15" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:08:15" class="time">Apr 29 07:08</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">I would have addition libevolutoin-mail-shared.so</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:08:29" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:08:29" class="time">Apr 29 07:08</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">it would help Anjal to run on 2.26.x as well as 2.27.x</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:08:30" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:08:30" class="time">Apr 29 07:08</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #57a657"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">srag: packaging is no big deal. -share.so is kinda redundant. can we just make it libevolution-mail.so and libevolution-mail-component.so?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:08:35" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:08:35" class="time">Apr 29 07:08</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #a25555"><lakhil></span> <span class="text">Fridrich, <a href="http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointTwentyseven";>http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointTwentyseven</a> - you can have as webcal :-)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:08:56" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:08:56" class="time">Apr 29 07:08</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">mbarnes, is it just the naming ?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:09:01" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:09:01" class="time">Apr 29 07:09</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">if so, pretty cool.</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:09:25" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:09:25" class="time">Apr 29 07:09</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #57a657"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">".so" is "shared object", so sharing is already implied</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:09:34" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:09:34" class="time">Apr 29 07:09</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">currently we have libevolution-mail.so</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:09:38" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:09:38" class="time">Apr 29 07:09</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">and I want another .so</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:09:44" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:09:44" class="time">Apr 29 07:09</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">ah ok.</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:09:49" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:09:49" class="time">Apr 29 07:09</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><seb128></span> <span class="text">why?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:09:53" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:09:53" class="time">Apr 29 07:09</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><seb128></span> <span class="text">just curious</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:09:54" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:09:54" class="time">Apr 29 07:09</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">libevolution-mail-utils.so</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:09:59" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:09:59" class="time">Apr 29 07:09</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #57a657"><mbarnes></span> <span class="text">pick something like -base.so or -core.so or something and I'm fine with it</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:10:03" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:10:03" class="time">Apr 29 07:10</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">sure.</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:10:20" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:10:20" class="time">Apr 29 07:10</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><seb128></span> <span class="text">I've no issue with it either</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:10:22" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:10:22" class="time">Apr 29 07:10</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">seb128, Anjal won't link to Bonobo, and would have redundant things</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:10:26" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:10:26" class="time">Apr 29 07:10</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">cool.</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:10:29" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:10:29" class="time">Apr 29 07:10</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #818144"><seb128></span> <span class="text">ok</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:10:32" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:10:32" class="time">Apr 29 07:10</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">Thatz it from my side.</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:10:36" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:10:36" class="time">Apr 29 07:10</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">anything else to discuss ?</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:10:46" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:10:46" class="time">Apr 29 07:10</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">pretty long meeting today :-)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:10:51" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:10:51" class="time">Apr 29 07:10</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #42427e"><abharath></span> <span class="text">:)</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:10:54" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:10:54" class="time">Apr 29 07:10</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">and good discussion and lot of out comes</span></p>
+<p id="tApr 29 07:11:17" class="comment"><a href="#tApr 29 07:11:17" class="time">Apr 29 07:11</a> <span class="nick" style="color: #407a40"><srag></span> <span class="text">Thanks a lot for everyone, and good bye</span></p>
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+Apr 29 06:06:10 <srag> Hello guys
+Apr 29 06:06:52 * seb128 (~seb128 ANancy-158-1-16-202 w90-40 abo wanadoo fr) has joined #evolution-meet
+Apr 29 06:07:04 <srag> 2.27.1 is moved to next monday as you know, and that gives us some time to get prepared with git
+Apr 29 06:07:22 <srag> but we are shrinking our oustanding patches
+Apr 29 06:07:31 <srag> should be done with most of them pretty soon.
+Apr 29 06:07:57 <srag> I assume, we have some agenda to discuss today, we can get to that asap
+Apr 29 06:07:58 * Fridrich is going to attach patches in bugzilla, because git is a bit above his paygrade for the while :)
+Apr 29 06:08:05 <srag> :)
+Apr 29 06:08:33 * srag is yet to commit to Evo/EDS git
+Apr 29 06:08:49 <abharath> :)
+Apr 29 06:08:51 <srag> I have a list of pending things to commit, just that Im mad schedule on Anjal for the next 2 weeks
+Apr 29 06:08:59 <srag> I should find some time.
+Apr 29 06:09:04 <seb128> is anybody still working on 2.26?
+Apr 29 06:09:07 <srag> I'll quickly move ahead
+Apr 29 06:09:12 <srag> seb128, of course..
+Apr 29 06:09:29 <srag> we still have two dot releases on stable
+Apr 29 06:09:31 <seb128> calendar is quite broken there
+Apr 29 06:09:35 <srag> and you will see regular improvements
+Apr 29 06:09:41 <srag> chen, are you aware of it ?
+Apr 29 06:09:42 <chen> seb128, whats the issue?
+Apr 29 06:09:52 <seb128> chen: can't edit recursive events
+Apr 29 06:10:05 <seb128> those are not moved correctly or duplicated
+Apr 29 06:10:11 <seb128> when evolution doesn't crash
+Apr 29 06:10:20 <chen> seb128, have u filed any bug?
+Apr 29 06:10:26 * jony (~jjohnny 122 167 78 248) has joined #evolution-meet
+Apr 29 06:10:27 <chen> seb128, let me know the bug id..
+Apr 29 06:10:36 <srag> sure
+Apr 29 06:10:42 <srag> lets get around the channel
+Apr 29 06:10:42 <seb128> chen: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=580720
+Apr 29 06:10:42 <jony> srag, i made it :) and hello all
+Apr 29 06:10:46 <srag> andre, anything to share with us ?
+Apr 29 06:10:48 <srag> jony, awesome
+Apr 29 06:11:02 <chen> seb128, will look into it today
+Apr 29 06:11:05 <seb128> ups
+Apr 29 06:11:12 <srag> abharath, anything to share with us ?
+Apr 29 06:11:27 <andre> basically i want the e-d-s dbus port to become default, but there's not the right people here :)
+Apr 29 06:11:30 <seb128> chen: that one was a translation issue, I will give you the correct number in a few minutes
+Apr 29 06:11:42 <chen> seb128, sure
+Apr 29 06:11:44 <abharath> srag: We have a rework of external editor now on master
+Apr 29 06:11:52 <abharath> It works neat and is very lovely
+Apr 29 06:11:59 <srag> andre, right. I had poked Ross last week on it,
+Apr 29 06:12:09 <srag> seems like we should see more progress now.
+Apr 29 06:12:14 <abharath> apart from that some fixes for templates and other issues.
+Apr 29 06:12:20 <srag> I realized that a new git branch was created last week
+Apr 29 06:12:31 <Fridrich> but leave the non-dbus solution possible still, because dbus for win32 is not going to be reality for some time still
+Apr 29 06:12:49 <srag> Fridrich, we can discuss that out.
+Apr 29 06:12:55 <abharath> Fridrich: some time ;)
+Apr 29 06:13:00 <andre> Fridrich, yeah, but default should be dbus
+Apr 29 06:13:07 <chen> ah yeah srag i also asked ross about eds-port and the reply was ideally it would be done for 2.27.2 :) so not sure
+Apr 29 06:13:16 <srag> right.
+Apr 29 06:13:31 <srag> I have more contact with Intel on this, so Im hoping for the best
+Apr 29 06:13:38 <chen> nice!
+Apr 29 06:14:10 <andre> great
+Apr 29 06:14:13 <srag> thx
+Apr 29 06:14:18 <srag> bradh, anything to share with us ?
+Apr 29 06:14:21 <srag> abharath, awesome
+Apr 29 06:14:31 <srag> abharath, any reason it can't make to stablke ?
+Apr 29 06:14:35 <srag> any UI changes ?
+Apr 29 06:14:46 <abharath> srag: some configuration changes yes
+Apr 29 06:14:52 <srag> hokay
+Apr 29 06:14:52 <abharath> plugin configuration
+Apr 29 06:15:15 <srag> chen, anything to share with us ?
+Apr 29 06:15:43 <chen> srag, fixing bnc (bugzilla.novell.com) bugs and some customer issues along with some patch reviews
+Apr 29 06:15:50 <srag> chen, cool.
+Apr 29 06:16:00 <srag> EvaSDK, anything to share with us ?
+Apr 29 06:16:56 <srag> Fridrich, anything to share with us ?
+Apr 29 06:17:22 <bradh> sorry, nothing from me
+Apr 29 06:17:28 <srag> bradh, thx
+Apr 29 06:17:35 <srag> jkerihuel, anything to share with us ?
+Apr 29 06:17:42 <jkerihuel> srag: yes ;-)
+Apr 29 06:17:47 <srag> jkerihuel, awesome :-)
+Apr 29 06:17:59 <srag> go ahead
+Apr 29 06:18:01 <jkerihuel> ok, so let's start with development oriented things first
+Apr 29 06:18:06 <srag> sure
+Apr 29 06:18:14 <jkerihuel> 1. we have 2 students working on openchange as part of GSoC 2009
+Apr 29 06:18:31 <jony> (oh .. i thought 3 projects )
+Apr 29 06:18:42 <jkerihuel> and their work (if successful) should at some point be worthwhile enough to enter gnome desktop
+Apr 29 06:18:44 <jkerihuel> jony: yeah 3
+Apr 29 06:19:00 <srag> nice
+Apr 29 06:19:01 <jkerihuel> but the 3rd one is a bit unrelated to gnome (in some way - thunderbird integration)
+Apr 29 06:19:13 <jkerihuel> 1st project: GUI frontend for openchange tools
+Apr 29 06:19:26 <seb128> chen: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=580724
+Apr 29 06:19:27 * chen looks at it
+Apr 29 06:19:32 <jkerihuel> which basically means: mapiprofile applet for gnome/kde system tool
+Apr 29 06:19:40 <jkerihuel> openchangepfadmin and mapiproxy
+Apr 29 06:19:50 <jkerihuel> the one that may really matters here is mapiprofile
+Apr 29 06:20:18 <jkerihuel> I'd like as much as possible to extract to sync the ema account setup and this work, so there's a common database for all apps
+Apr 29 06:20:51 <jkerihuel> let's say you use ema for email/calendar but prefer kontact for contacts (and all of them have openchange support), it would be nice for the user not to have to define different profiles databases
+Apr 29 06:21:20 <chen> ema?
+Apr 29 06:21:28 <Fridrich> evo-mapi
+Apr 29 06:21:35 <jkerihuel> chen: sorry learned mcrha acronyms ;-)
+Apr 29 06:21:37 <chen> ok :)
+Apr 29 06:21:41 <abharath> :)
+Apr 29 06:21:42 <srag> :)
+Apr 29 06:22:02 <jkerihuel> so if we could find in a near future a way to sync on this, that would be nice
+Apr 29 06:22:03 <srag> jkerihuel, sure.
+Apr 29 06:22:11 * jony has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
+Apr 29 06:22:15 <jkerihuel> among things I'd like to see: the possibility for the user to select between a list of profiles
+Apr 29 06:22:18 <srag> what sort of sync you expect ?
+Apr 29 06:22:21 <jkerihuel> set the default one etc.
+Apr 29 06:22:33 <jkerihuel> a sync in term of database location (mostly)
+Apr 29 06:22:39 * jony (~jjohnny 122 167 78 248) has joined #evolution-meet
+Apr 29 06:22:44 <srag> sure.
+Apr 29 06:23:04 <jkerihuel> something that is painful for users atm is when they come to fill bug reports
+Apr 29 06:23:20 <jkerihuel> and we ask them to use openchange tools to detect whether the bug is ours or ema related only
+Apr 29 06:23:33 <srag> jkerihuel, the current model is we hide profile to the users
+Apr 29 06:23:42 <srag> since we didn't want to complicate the UI
+Apr 29 06:24:11 <jkerihuel> srag: yeah I can understand this ;-)
+Apr 29 06:24:16 <srag> and it currently lies inside .evolution
+Apr 29 06:24:28 <jony> jkerihuel, want the profile.ldb to be in a common place rather than ~/.evolution
+Apr 29 06:24:32 <jony> ?
+Apr 29 06:24:36 <jkerihuel> jony: correct
+Apr 29 06:24:42 <jkerihuel> for general-purpose benefits
+Apr 29 06:24:44 <srag> may be ~/.mapi-profiles.ldb
+Apr 29 06:25:22 <jkerihuel> it is not an urgent task, just wanted to place a reminder on this so it is not forgotten next
+Apr 29 06:25:25 <jony> this should be a simple change .. :) and shouldn't hurt evolution at all ..
+Apr 29 06:25:28 <srag> sure.
+Apr 29 06:25:35 <srag> jony, may be some migration for 2.26 users
+Apr 29 06:25:42 <srag> in 2.28
+Apr 29 06:25:46 <jony> right ..
+Apr 29 06:25:47 <jkerihuel> srag: also some users tends to use mapiprofile instead of ema in some cases - e.g.: when they have ambiguous names
+Apr 29 06:26:07 * You are now known as mbarnes
+Apr 29 06:26:25 <jkerihuel> that is only meant to be temp, but solves some issues and can help decreasing importance of such issues in trackers/bugzillas
+Apr 29 06:26:36 <jkerihuel> the other project is about exchange2ical tool
+Apr 29 06:26:43 <jkerihuel> mentored by bradh
+Apr 29 06:26:57 <srag> nice
+Apr 29 06:26:59 <jkerihuel> which should - if successful - be dual calendar sync exchange <-> ical
+Apr 29 06:27:05 <jkerihuel> and will rely on libical
+Apr 29 06:27:22 * jony has quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
+Apr 29 06:27:27 <srag> the upstream libical irght?
+Apr 29 06:27:40 <srag> jkerihuel, ^^ ?>
+Apr 29 06:27:41 * jony (~jjohnny 122 167 78 248) has joined #evolution-meet
+Apr 29 06:27:45 <jkerihuel> so question: very probably - up to bradh to answer this one
+Apr 29 06:28:01 <jkerihuel> the exchange2ical code should be refactored into some library
+Apr 29 06:28:23 <jkerihuel> so question: when we come to have this code ready, would you like to use it for offline storage?
+Apr 29 06:28:35 <jkerihuel> or would it have a lot of impact on evolution storage semantics
+Apr 29 06:28:46 <jony> chen ^?
+Apr 29 06:28:49 <chen> seb128, just tried the operations in trunk and seems to work fine. will checkout 2.6.x (need to build). could be some missing patch
+Apr 29 06:28:56 * chen reads the logs
+Apr 29 06:29:07 <seb128> chen: ok thanks
+Apr 29 06:29:22 <seb128> chen: I confirmed on 2 boxes and mcrha said it doesn't work for him either
+Apr 29 06:29:43 <srag> jkerihuel, the point is, we already have an implementation for this
+Apr 29 06:29:58 <srag> I would be happy if the code in evolution is picked up and refactored as library
+Apr 29 06:30:04 <jkerihuel> srag: a complete exchange 2 ical ?
+Apr 29 06:30:07 <mcrha> seb128, chen yup, it didn't, on trunk/master
+Apr 29 06:30:09 <bradh> srag: the exchange2ical plan is to ahve a lib that talks libical on one side and exchange on the other side.
+Apr 29 06:30:17 <jkerihuel> with the 100% mapping as described in MS specs
+Apr 29 06:30:29 <srag> jkerihuel, not sure on the MS specs,
+Apr 29 06:30:29 <bradh> so it effectively implements all of MS-OXOICAL
+Apr 29 06:30:55 <chen> seb128, mcrha : will build 2.26.x and fix it up
+Apr 29 06:30:57 <bradh> then exchange2ical just does a local store and sync
+Apr 29 06:31:02 <seb128> chen: thanks
+Apr 29 06:31:09 <chen> seb128, np
+Apr 29 06:31:14 <jony> bradh, this includes recurrence / meetings / and all the variations ?
+Apr 29 06:31:34 <srag> may be I need to understand more on the aspects of exchange2ical
+Apr 29 06:31:40 <EvaSDK> srag: nope
+Apr 29 06:31:53 <srag> jkerihuel, how would you think, it would affect Evo, in code..
+Apr 29 06:32:00 <srag> meaning, how could Evo use it ?
+Apr 29 06:32:07 <bradh> jony: we already have recurrence implemented (in exchange->ical direction), just needs polish and packaging up.
+Apr 29 06:32:58 <srag> is it just about get/put of ical ?
+Apr 29 06:33:02 <jkerihuel> srag: I'm not sure yet, we obviously need to discuss this later when we have some of the code we discussed above ready
+Apr 29 06:33:10 <jony> evolution -> exchange2ical -> libical ?
+Apr 29 06:33:10 <srag> or does it deal with individual events on a existing cal ?
+Apr 29 06:33:13 <bradh> you'll basically be able to say "give me meeting matching Message ID" and it will give you back an ical data structure.
+Apr 29 06:33:23 <srag> jkerihuel, sure
+Apr 29 06:33:38 <jkerihuel> bradh is the one to be in the loop for this one ;-)
+Apr 29 06:33:41 <jony> srag, one concern i would have here is the number of connections ..
+Apr 29 06:33:48 <srag> jony, sure
+Apr 29 06:34:12 <jkerihuel> shall I move to the next point/topic?
+Apr 29 06:34:22 <bradh> well, right now you have to get all the properties and convert them.
+Apr 29 06:34:24 <srag> jkerihuel, sure.
+Apr 29 06:34:32 <jkerihuel> ok exchange 2007 support
+Apr 29 06:34:33 <srag> bradh, we can discuss in detail later on
+Apr 29 06:34:45 <bradh> srag: np. ask when ready.
+Apr 29 06:34:46 <chen> bradh, does that mean using this tool, evolution can speak ical with exchange both ways ?
+Apr 29 06:35:17 <jkerihuel> currently we are using exchange 2000 (xormagic) calls and it sometimes cause troubles to users within a exchange 2007 environment with no rollback compatibility
+Apr 29 06:35:28 <srag> ok
+Apr 29 06:35:36 <jkerihuel> I intend to change this on mid-term and mix openchange libmapi stack so we can have native exch2k7 support too
+Apr 29 06:35:45 <srag> sounds awesome
+Apr 29 06:35:54 <jkerihuel> and fallback to existing stack in case it doesn't work / is not supported
+Apr 29 06:36:03 <jkerihuel> I've also been working on clustered exchange environment
+Apr 29 06:36:04 <jony> ncie !
+Apr 29 06:36:12 <srag> nice
+Apr 29 06:36:22 <jkerihuel> so users shouldn't encounter anymore ecWrongServer errors
+Apr 29 06:36:36 <srag> right, its a common question on the list I guess
+Apr 29 06:36:44 <jkerihuel> there may still be some special cases not handled but at least should work with most users
+Apr 29 06:36:51 <jkerihuel> it is already in openchange trunk
+Apr 29 06:36:58 <srag> ok
+Apr 29 06:37:00 <jkerihuel> so this leads to the next point:
+Apr 29 06:37:12 <jkerihuel> what about ema/openchange libs version sync?
+Apr 29 06:37:20 <jkerihuel> how can we get sure we keep updated?
+Apr 29 06:37:26 <srag> jkerihuel, for GNOME 2.28, we can update the versions
+Apr 29 06:37:27 <jkerihuel> how does this impact distributions?
+Apr 29 06:37:36 <srag> distros would adopt to it
+Apr 29 06:38:10 <srag> infact, I was looking at bringing in 0.8.2 for gnome 2-26 stable, but yet to receive a nod from jony on the level of changes/risk
+Apr 29 06:38:31 <srag> iirc, seb128 was not in favour of changing the deps on the stable branch, but we first need to see, where we would stand
+Apr 29 06:38:42 <jkerihuel> srag: I expect OpenChange to be able to release a new version within a month or so
+Apr 29 06:38:47 <seb128> I just said updating to 0.8.2 would not work for jaunty
+Apr 29 06:38:49 <jony> :) will get this done before next meet. (/me has some internal time consuming tasks)
+Apr 29 06:38:54 <seb128> 0.8 to 0.8.2 is not a trivial update
+Apr 29 06:38:59 <srag> seb128, sure
+Apr 29 06:39:06 <jkerihuel> seb128: yeah correct
+Apr 29 06:39:29 <srag> jkerihuel, would we have a version of Samba/OpenChange/libmapi for GNOME 2.28 to depend on soon ?
+Apr 29 06:39:32 <srag> all three synced
+Apr 29 06:39:34 <jkerihuel> what makes it pretty "not ubuntu convenient" is that a lot of server-side code was added
+Apr 29 06:39:55 <jkerihuel> srag: probably, we are looking for a new samba4 version in a while samba4-alpha8
+Apr 29 06:40:02 <srag> ok.
+Apr 29 06:40:07 <jkerihuel> which we'll be using for the next openchange release
+Apr 29 06:40:11 <srag> I assume your new version would have some samba deps
+Apr 29 06:40:25 <srag> as you know, GNOME wants a tarball/version to depend on than revs
+Apr 29 06:40:33 <jkerihuel> srag: afaik no other deps than the ones already packaged/existing
+Apr 29 06:40:46 <srag> oh.. interesting
+Apr 29 06:40:51 <jkerihuel> afaik mbarnes/simo are working on this part
+Apr 29 06:41:02 <srag> meaning htat with existing samba, and new libmapi, it would be fine ?
+Apr 29 06:41:12 <jkerihuel> yes
+Apr 29 06:41:21 <srag> that would make things a lot easier
+Apr 29 06:41:25 <jkerihuel> however we'll increased the major version for next release
+Apr 29 06:41:35 <jkerihuel> there are a few API changes (regarding notifications)
+Apr 29 06:41:39 <jkerihuel> that require us to do so
+Apr 29 06:42:00 <srag> are there any changes that Evo should adopt to?
+Apr 29 06:42:01 <jkerihuel> however no incompatibility regarding the API ema already uses
+Apr 29 06:42:12 <jony> we are not using any sort of notifications as of now . .so should be fine .
+Apr 29 06:42:14 <srag> that answers it
+Apr 29 06:42:23 <srag> jony, we should be looking at very soon
+Apr 29 06:42:28 <jkerihuel> srag: maybe a few proto, but nothing really meaningful
+Apr 29 06:42:33 <srag> cool.
+Apr 29 06:42:41 <jony> srag, sure ..
+Apr 29 06:42:49 <srag> that should be no problem IMO, we can depend on 0.9 (?) once thatz released, after I get a nod from the gnome release team
+Apr 29 06:43:08 <jkerihuel> srag: fair enough
+Apr 29 06:43:31 <jkerihuel> last point I wanted to check with you is about all the bugs report
+Apr 29 06:43:39 <jkerihuel> I'm starting getting lost to be honest
+Apr 29 06:43:46 <srag> :)
+Apr 29 06:43:54 <jkerihuel> gnome bugzilla, launchpad, redhat bugzilla
+Apr 29 06:44:20 <jkerihuel> I do not automatically receive notifications for those who may impact openchange, (except launchpad)
+Apr 29 06:44:30 <jkerihuel> this makes the sync in fixing bugs a but difficult
+Apr 29 06:44:42 <jkerihuel> would you have any suggestions/pointers on how this could be improved?
+Apr 29 06:44:54 <jony> hmm .. been working on internal tasks .. but i think i should be able to spend more time on MAPI from few days ..
+Apr 29 06:45:12 <srag> jkerihuel, my preference would be to bring issues to upstream
+Apr 29 06:45:16 <srag> and track from there,
+Apr 29 06:45:22 <srag> which is how, we handle most of hte things
+Apr 29 06:45:45 <jkerihuel> ok so gnome bugzilla should be ref nb 1?
+Apr 29 06:46:07 <srag> I would believe so, unless seb128 mbarnes mcrha have some thoughts against it.
+Apr 29 06:46:23 <mcrha> nope, usually upstream things from the rh bugzilla
+Apr 29 06:46:36 <seb128> I usually send bugs upstream too
+Apr 29 06:46:44 <srag> cool, that makes it easier
+Apr 29 06:46:48 <bradh> so you'll push stuff to openchange trac?
+Apr 29 06:47:04 <mcrha> jony, is there any virtual mapi user jkerihuel can watch to?
+Apr 29 06:47:20 <seb128> oh, openchange, I'm not working on that, the ubuntu packages come from debian
+Apr 29 06:47:23 <srag> mcrha, jkerihuel we can add jkerihuel part of mapi bug list
+Apr 29 06:47:26 <jony> i use rss to track ..
+Apr 29 06:47:39 <seb128> but I can ask the ubuntu server team to try to do that
+Apr 29 06:48:00 <srag> cool.
+Apr 29 06:48:19 <jkerihuel> thx
+Apr 29 06:48:20 <srag> jkerihuel, I can get you part of Evo/MAPI bugs, from where, you can take your bugs to OpenChange
+Apr 29 06:48:32 <srag> if they aren't EMA
+Apr 29 06:48:33 <jkerihuel> srag: that would be great
+Apr 29 06:48:37 <srag> awesome
+Apr 29 06:48:49 <srag> anything more jkerihuel ?
+Apr 29 06:48:54 <jkerihuel> ok, nothing more to share yet ;-)
+Apr 29 06:49:01 <srag> thanks a lot jkerihuel
+Apr 29 06:49:05 <srag> jony, anything to discuss ?
+Apr 29 06:49:38 <srag> lakhil, anything to share with us ?
+Apr 29 06:49:46 <jony> srag, hmm nothing much .. help up in internal tasks (keep saying this for a longtime .. ) and i should be able to work on mapi a bit more from few days
+Apr 29 06:49:51 <jony> s/help/held
+Apr 29 06:49:59 <lakhil> sle related stuff, testing on evolution-mapi with libmapi trunk (mostly towards memory related issue), bug triaging and have started with anjal
+Apr 29 06:50:02 <srag> nice
+Apr 29 06:50:21 <srag> lakhil, I had requested a bugzilla for Anjal, should be there soon.
+Apr 29 06:50:32 <lakhil> that will be great
+Apr 29 06:50:44 <jkerihuel> lakhil, cool. feel free to put me in the loop if you have comments/critics
+Apr 29 06:50:44 <srag> mbarnes, morning :-) anything to share with us ?
+Apr 29 06:50:51 <mbarnes> landed the attachment rewrite for 2.27.1, so watch out for bugs there
+Apr 29 06:50:51 <mbarnes> now I'm back to kill-bonobo hacking
+Apr 29 06:50:51 <mbarnes> lakhil has been testing and filing bugs on it (thanks, btw)
+Apr 29 06:50:51 <mbarnes> anyone else is welcome to as well
+Apr 29 06:50:58 <lakhil> jkerihuel, sure
+Apr 29 06:51:05 <srag> mbarnes, awesome
+Apr 29 06:51:08 <lakhil> mbarnes, most welcome :)
+Apr 29 06:51:26 <srag> mbarnes, I like the idea, of cut and merge small portions of KB,
+Apr 29 06:51:28 <seb128> mbarnes: how far is that one to land to trunk?
+Apr 29 06:52:16 * jony is now known as jony|afk
+Apr 29 06:52:27 <mbarnes> seb128: I still have a lot of work to do on the calendar. haven't lost hope for 2.27.3 but the the deadline's approaching fast
+Apr 29 06:52:40 <srag> thx mbarnes and all the best
+Apr 29 06:52:46 <srag> mcrha, anything to share with us ?
+Apr 29 06:52:49 <mcrha> just committed bunch of patches to git, which leads me to discussing about changelogs and commit messages. Any consensus on evo-family side already?
+Apr 29 06:53:16 <srag> we can ditch ChangeLogs, Im in favor of it.
+Apr 29 06:53:25 * mbarnes has already stopped updating ChangeLogs
+Apr 29 06:53:26 <srag> we can have a format for git commit logs
+Apr 29 06:53:30 <srag> cool.
+Apr 29 06:53:39 * srag was asked this, but wanted to take a decision on this meeting
+Apr 29 06:53:47 <srag> is anyone against this model ?
+Apr 29 06:54:03 <mcrha> what will be a format for git commit messages?
+Apr 29 06:54:09 <seb128> http://live.gnome.org/Git/CommitMessages
+Apr 29 06:54:20 <jony|afk> my concern would be what if after few years we move to a new VCS ?
+Apr 29 06:54:20 <mcrha> what will be a format for git commit messages in evo?
+Apr 29 06:54:37 <srag> mcrha, I have some format, specially that helps NEWS generation
+Apr 29 06:54:38 <mbarnes> it if make it official we should rename all the ChangeLog files
+Apr 29 06:54:45 <mbarnes> ChangeLog.pre-2.27 or something
+Apr 29 06:54:47 <jony|afk> and changelogs are much easier way for finding information than going through git commit logs
+Apr 29 06:54:52 <srag> mbarnes, sure
+Apr 29 06:55:17 <mcrha> srag, "some format" sounds very promising ;)
+Apr 29 06:55:22 <srag> jony|afk, I assume, we can extract them, at some point, if we really want.
+Apr 29 06:55:35 <srag> mcrha, basically, http://live.gnome.org/Git/CommitMessages looks simple
+Apr 29 06:55:56 <srag> I want the [Short tag] to be specificed with some tags, which would go automatically for NEWS
+Apr 29 06:56:04 <srag> so that we give meaning ful NEWS files
+Apr 29 06:56:13 <srag> I guess the dev is the best guy, to write an entry for NEWS
+Apr 29 06:56:15 <jony|afk> srag, imho changelog files : i just open it up and search for some phrase . .
+Apr 29 06:56:27 <mcrha> ok, if following that, and no special ChangeLog entries anywhere, then why not. I'm fine with that
+Apr 29 06:56:30 <jony|afk> not sure how i would be able to do that (easy) in git logs
+Apr 29 06:56:47 <seb128> there is some discussion on d-d-l about ChangeLog too
+Apr 29 06:57:06 <seb128> and some piece of code to autogenerate those from git log
+Apr 29 06:57:09 <mcrha> srag, eh, what kind of tag do you mean?
+Apr 29 06:57:34 <srag> Currently we have something like '** fix for bug #?'
+Apr 29 06:57:49 <seb128> "git log --date=short --pretty=format:"@@@@%cd %an <%ae>%n%n%s%n%n%b" |
+Apr 29 06:57:49 <seb128> perl -ne 'if (/^\s*$/) { if (!$blank) { print; $blank=1; } } else
+Apr 29 06:57:49 <seb128> {$blank=0; if (!s/^@@@@// && !/^\t/) { print "\t"; } print; }'"
+Apr 29 06:57:53 <seb128> was suggested on the list
+Apr 29 06:58:00 <seb128> which gives a format similar to the current one
+Apr 29 06:58:18 <srag> instead, ** BUGFIX: #NUM - Fixes the crash while loading calendar foo
+Apr 29 06:58:45 <abharath> srag: that would make the work for generating NEWS too simple ;)
+Apr 29 06:58:50 <srag> or something line ** FEATURE: Adds support for Smartcard auth
+Apr 29 06:58:55 <Fridrich> and for commit that doesn't have bugzilla entry?
+Apr 29 06:59:00 <Fridrich> ah, ok
+Apr 29 06:59:12 <mcrha> less than 80 chars on the first line, right?
+Apr 29 06:59:16 <srag> Fridrich, if you think that not worth mentioning, leave that ** entry at all
+Apr 29 06:59:32 <mbarnes> yeah, drop the **
+Apr 29 06:59:36 <srag> that would help us to generate good NEWS files, useful for users/distro maintainers
+Apr 29 07:00:00 <Fridrich> ah,ok, it is not mandatory
+Apr 29 07:00:26 <srag> we can make a template, and add this to Evo, lets make the template and make it part of our git
+Apr 29 07:00:45 <srag> oops, repetition
+Apr 29 07:00:46 <Fridrich> actually, can someone commit this for me before I learn git? http://www.go-oo.org/~fridrich/win32/evolution-2.26.0-fileuri.patch
+Apr 29 07:01:13 <srag> does the format sounds fine for every one ?
+Apr 29 07:01:29 <mcrha> one thing, th e bugfix, if it's a different bug than gnome?
+Apr 29 07:01:49 <mbarnes> srag: for bugfixes, could we instead just copy-n-paste the Bugzilla title? (Bug nnnnnn - Bug summary goes here)
+Apr 29 07:02:23 <srag> BUGFIX is the keyword, we can have #F00(BNC) - fixes baa
+Apr 29 07:02:31 <srag> mbarnes, it won't be meaning ful always
+Apr 29 07:02:43 <srag> mbarnes, we should have some one correcting the titles then
+Apr 29 07:02:53 <srag> at times, its not even english
+Apr 29 07:03:04 <abharath> and for bnc bugs, plz add the description as part of the longer explanation please
+Apr 29 07:03:25 <mbarnes> well, -we- should be doing that. at the very least when we close the bug
+Apr 29 07:03:54 <srag> mbarnes, we can do either way.
+Apr 29 07:04:00 * mcrha is lazy and bad in wording
+Apr 29 07:04:22 <srag> mcrha, you are going for english classes, so you would be better then ;-)
+Apr 29 07:04:35 <srag> seb128, anything to share with us ?
+Apr 29 07:04:44 <mcrha> srag, it would be nice if so
+Apr 29 07:04:45 * srag has one question to seb128 & mbarnes at the end.
+Apr 29 07:04:48 <mbarnes> I mean if we're gonna have to summarize the bug in one line anyway, may as well update the Bugzilla summary to match, right?
+Apr 29 07:05:23 <seb128> srag: not really
+Apr 29 07:05:28 <srag> mbarnes, since we have a short commit msg, we can add it part of it. git helps to commit offline
+Apr 29 07:05:30 <seb128> tracking some calendar issues in 2.26
+Apr 29 07:05:39 <mcrha> mbarnes, srag, I either write what I fixed or what's the impact on user/what they see
+Apr 29 07:05:41 <srag> seb128, mbarnes I have a question for you
+Apr 29 07:05:43 <seb128> there is quite some libical crash cases too
+Apr 29 07:05:50 <seb128> srag: yes?
+Apr 29 07:06:06 <mcrha> mbarnes, srag, never ever both
+Apr 29 07:06:20 <srag> Im splitting libevolution-mail-component.so and creating libevolution-mail-share.so
+Apr 29 07:06:37 <srag> Is it fine, if I take it to stable branch also ?
+Apr 29 07:06:58 * chen has quit (Leaving)
+Apr 29 07:07:04 <srag> I know, for 2.26.2 packaging you might have to do some extra packaging
+Apr 29 07:07:16 <seb128> srag: there is no such .so right now?
+Apr 29 07:07:22 <srag> seb128, right
+Apr 29 07:07:31 <srag> Anjal would need that -share.so,
+Apr 29 07:07:35 <seb128> you mean libevolution-mail.so?
+Apr 29 07:07:41 <srag> seb128, right :-)
+Apr 29 07:07:43 <Fridrich> srag: when is 2.26.2 due?
+Apr 29 07:07:49 <seb128> it's not a shared library so that should be no issue
+Apr 29 07:08:03 <srag> Fridrich, May 18
+Apr 29 07:08:15 <srag> I would have addition libevolutoin-mail-shared.so
+Apr 29 07:08:29 <srag> it would help Anjal to run on 2.26.x as well as 2.27.x
+Apr 29 07:08:30 <mbarnes> srag: packaging is no big deal. -share.so is kinda redundant. can we just make it libevolution-mail.so and libevolution-mail-component.so?
+Apr 29 07:08:35 <lakhil> Fridrich, http://live.gnome.org/TwoPointTwentyseven - you can have as webcal :-)
+Apr 29 07:08:56 <srag> mbarnes, is it just the naming ?
+Apr 29 07:09:01 <srag> if so, pretty cool.
+Apr 29 07:09:25 <mbarnes> ".so" is "shared object", so sharing is already implied
+Apr 29 07:09:34 <srag> currently we have libevolution-mail.so
+Apr 29 07:09:38 <srag> and I want another .so
+Apr 29 07:09:44 <srag> ah ok.
+Apr 29 07:09:49 <seb128> why?
+Apr 29 07:09:53 <seb128> just curious
+Apr 29 07:09:54 <srag> libevolution-mail-utils.so
+Apr 29 07:09:59 <mbarnes> pick something like -base.so or -core.so or something and I'm fine with it
+Apr 29 07:10:03 <srag> sure.
+Apr 29 07:10:20 <seb128> I've no issue with it either
+Apr 29 07:10:22 <srag> seb128, Anjal won't link to Bonobo, and would have redundant things
+Apr 29 07:10:26 <srag> cool.
+Apr 29 07:10:29 <seb128> ok
+Apr 29 07:10:32 <srag> Thatz it from my side.
+Apr 29 07:10:36 <srag> anything else to discuss ?
+Apr 29 07:10:46 <srag> pretty long meeting today :-)
+Apr 29 07:10:51 <abharath> :)
+Apr 29 07:10:54 <srag> and good discussion and lot of out comes
+Apr 29 07:11:17 <srag> Thanks a lot for everyone, and good bye
+
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