Hi, Experienced programmer and while computer science at college was all UNIX all the time that was some years ago. I'm checking out the UNIX/Linux world again. It seems the place to start programming with Ubuntu (Kubuntu in my case) is packaging. Went through the exercises here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/HandsOn. Brasero is used in one of the examples used and this page http://packages.qa.debian.org/b/brasero.html seems to ask for someone to package 2.30.2 Run dget to get 2.30.2 - that works. Then debuild: ... No package 'gstreamer-interfaces-0.10' found... Seems like I need newer versions of various gstreamer libraries. Download from here http://packages.debian.org/sid/gstreamer0.10-plugins-base and try to build. Now I need a newer version of liboil. Hmm, seems like I could get into infinite recurse here if I don't switch to some tool that better handles the dependencies. Tried synaptics package manager and apt-get in various ways but that didn't help. pat |