David, thanks for bringing this up and for your comments. Mine are below. On Tue, 2010-03-23 at 10:11 -0700, Gabriel Burt wrote: > Hi David, > > On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 8:14 AM, David Nielsen <gnomeuser gmail com> wrote: > > As GSoC 2010 is coming up and we have had a few good suggestions that would > > make great SoC projects such as binding libgpod and replacing podsleuth as > > well as preparing Cubano for mainline merging and making a more "semantic" > > Now playing view. However as I dipped into the Banshee trackrecord with SoC > > I discovered that we apparently aren't doing well with SoC, not only do we > > manage to attract few contributors but their code rarely appears to reach > > Banshee but being exciting high profile projects our handling of SoC project > > could be negatively affecting Banshee. > > As far as I have been able to find in 2009 we had two projects and the > > expected success rate is a whopping 85%, Banshee managed at best 50% that > > year > > Well, to be fair, it's hard to hit 85% success with two students. :) The 85% success rate given for the whole 2009 GSoC is the ratio of students who got a "Pass" mark, ie they accomplished what they set out to do for their project. So, in that regard, we got 100% last year. :) But of course, real success is when the code is integrated and the student becomes a long term contributor. How to reach higher levels of that real success is still an open question, for GNOME and probably all organisations in GSoC. [CUT] > > I would estimate that BCE gives a community for such new developers coming > > into Banshee as such we should have a better chance of succes this year. > > So with that in mind, do we have any proposals and where do we officially > > list them? > > The biggest limiting factor is the number of mentors. Aaron, Bertrand > and myself are all not wanting to do it this year, but Alexander has > volunteered. So we don't need to come up with too many ideas. I > really like the idea of the libgpod one - I would love to not maintain > that level of our ipod stack. A bit more on my non-mentoring this year : I think good mentoring takes time. Compared to last year, I'd have significantly less time for mentoring. So I fear that if the student is just a little bit less awesome than Neil was, the chances of getting that real success would be quite low. I think there might be a way for community members to help reach that "GSoC real success" : provide feedback to the student and mentor, comment on progress reports, try out their code, report bugs, etc. It makes the student feel he's part of a supportive community, and should increase motivation for the mentor and other devs to find ways to integrate the work. If we get student this year, I'll try to do what I described above, even if it's the libgpod project (I don't have an iPod ;) ). -- Bertrand Lorentz <bertrand lorentz gmail com> > http://bl-log.blogspot.com <
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