Re: My gripes with Gnome Shell

[Jan Niklas Hasse <jhasse bixense com>]

On Tue, 27 Sep 2016, at 20:42, Adam Tauno Williams wrote:
> On Tue, 2016-09-27 at 16:05 +0200, Jan Niklas Hasse wrote:
> > While it makes sense for some applications, like email, it's rather
> > confusing for something like an IRC client: I don't want it to run at
> > start up, but I also want to be able to let it run in the background
> > without a window. Without the tray I have NO idea if my IRC client is
> > currently running (without using `ps aux` or something like that).
>
> You can:
>   (a) start it an minimize it - it appears in the tray.

It also appears in the window lists (Activities overwiew or Alt+Tab list) and I don't want that.

>    - or - 
>   (b) have it start at startup.

Quoting myself: "I don't want it to run at start up"

> A package could very well choose to contain a shell extension if it
> needs some persistent custom presentation - a path exists to solve that
> problem. 

This will only work for GNOME Shell users. Why should a developer care if a tray icon covers nearly 
everything else (Windows, Mac, MATE, XFCE, ...)? A solution for Gtk and Qt is needed which will fallback to a 
tray icon. libappindicator comes close.