On Tue, 19 Apr 2011 15:02:05 -0700, Adam Williamson <awilliam redhat com> wrote: > Most of this is Ubuntu stuff; obviously they still have kinks getting > the proper configuration set up. If you used a Fedora or SUSE-based > image it'd all Just Work. I would think so, and I won't complain to the GNOME devs about Ubuntu's lack of gnome shell integration. I am fully aware of that situation and will switch to some other sane distro rather soon. (I unsuccessfully tried to create/boot from Debian and Fedora live USB sticks first, while Ubuntu worked, so I stuck with that, but that's way OT now :-)). > On theming: I believe the GNOME team felt that supporting theming comes > with more drawbacks than benefits. The drawbacks are that it introduces > far more complexity - i.e. things that can possibly go wrong, that then > get blamed on GNOME - and it detracts from the ability to present a > carefully considered appearance. Neither Windows nor OS X (nor any > smartphone OS I'm aware of) provides an official UI and support for > theming, and there's no great outcry that it should be available on > those; Oh last I checked my WinXP, it had an appearance setting dialog which let me both select the look of windows and buttons as well as a color scheme. So I am not sure that no one else provides no themeing support. > > Second, I want my weather indicator back. > No-one's implemented it yet, I believe. OK, perfectly fine. As I still have no clue as to how to write extensions, I'll just wait until someone has. > > Previously I had my 5 most needed apps in the panel which I could > > start immediately. Now I have to go to the hot-corner to make the > > panel appear, find the app and go there to start it. It's more moving > > and more waiting. I can live with that but it's not much of an > > improvement for me. > > I'd suggest just auto-starting them; if you're going to run them anyway, > why do it manually? gnome-session-properties lets you do this, though > it's somewhat deprecated; I believe the intended design is that you > simply leave the apps you want running, and suspend the system when > you're done, so you never have to re-launch them because you're not > restarting. Actually, this is what I mostly manually did after booting, I clicked all the 5 icons to start the apps and left them open most of the time. I did not know about gnome-session-properties (I know that in gnome2 you could configure the autostarted apps quite easily in the preferences in the Session & autostart (?) section, but I couldn't find anything like that in the new properties. Is there a way, to have apps be autostarted somehow and be stoved in some specific "workspace"? That would solve my needs. > The 'keyboard' settings applet has a 'Shortcuts' tab which looks like > you can set all these up however you like. > > > One thing that is absolutely horrible, is that I am an avid emacs user. > That's okay, self-loathing will get you nowhere ;) I knew something like this would come back to haunt me forever :-). > > Emacs most important area is the "minibuffer", the lowest line in the > > window. However, that happens to be exactly the space where > > "notifications" are now shown. Notifications are not translucent > > enough to actually see what happens beneath them (say, if I want to > > type the path of a filename I want to open). They also don't go away > > by themselves without me clicking on them, > > well, they don't go away, but the notification area doesn't (shouldn't) > be visible all the time - only when you move your mouse to the very > lower-right corner. Is that still inconvenient? The notification area is only visible when I mouse to the lower right corner, that is fine. The notifications themselves remain visible though until I click them away, and as there can be many of them, it tends to be less "destractful" that I wish it were. > > the hilarious 'Application problem: "Application problem" is > > ready' (which made me laugh loudly). > That sounds like an Ubuntu thing, haven't seen it on F15. Yes, it's the Ubuntu crash reporter, I had things crash left and right the first couple of times after updating. THings have settled down now. > > Next, some empathy messages popped up there: my contact 'lwn.net' > > announced (displayed with a picture of my coworker who I am sure has > > never heard of LWN) that Fedora 15beta has been released. That picture > > of my coworker talking about Fedora had me nearly freak out. > > Not sure what you're reporting here; the wrong buddy icon is an obvious > bug (file it) but other than that, empathy messages showing up in the > notification area is a feature. Yes, I was reporting the icon buddy bug, which I will file. But again, all emptathy messages popping up here, leads to many dissruptions in my workflow. Everytime, my identi.ca contact finds something interesting, I have to interrupt my work with emacs now. I am not sure what the solution to this really would be. I could think of several ways to deal with this: a) be able to configure emphathy which contact messages should lead to notifications and which not. b) Have "full screen windows" not extend underneath the notification area (which would deafeat the meaning of fullscreen somewhat :-( ) c) Have notifications pop up in the right lower corner rather the right in the middle of the screen (that would solve my problems but probably lead to problems with other apps?) d) Make notifications so translucent that I can keep working dispite them showing. e) Configure a timeout after which they automatically disappear. > > [On/Off slider] > There's already been some discussion of this on the Planet, IIRC. Good to know. Sebastian
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