Re: {IMPORTANT] README, Sawfish 1.6.0

[Christopher Roy Bratusek <zanghar freenet de>]

Am Sat, 14 Nov 2009 08:02:11 +0100
schrieb Christopher Roy Bratusek <zanghar freenet de>:

> Am Sat, 14 Nov 2009 12:58:15 +0900 (JST)
> schrieb Teika Kazura <teika lavabit com>:
> 
> > On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 14:40:00 +0100, Christopher Roy Bratusek wrote:
> > > - Tabs ... is anyone willing to work on them?°
> > 
> > The release of 1.6 is close, so even if anyone has some good hacks,
> > it should be small. (We have to investigate GSR's proposal first
> > before further development ...well, I can't find it :/) Design with
> > best efforts, and you will win.
> 
> Of course. Still a lot of discussion but no work :)
> 
> > > - Update Docs regarding compat.jl ... Teika?*
> > 
> > This is of low priority, although it's marked as "todo" in Wiki. It
> > should be the part of entire code review and, if any, refactoring.
> 
> 'kay.
> 
> > Once I said I might ask longer feature freeze period, but I don't
> > think I'll need it. More news rewritement is necessary, but not so
> > tough.
> 
> Good.
> 
> > And Chris, could you give description on the status of gnome support
> > in news.texi? (What is exactly the "minimum support"?) Specific
> > texts like the one of KDE will be nice.
> 
> The skip-tasklist window-matcher was dropped. Only used by GNOME and
> only in ancient versions. (don't mix with tasklist-skip, which is the
> way to go and of course still supported)
> 
> GNOME-Menu support was dropped, as it was only working correctly for
> GNOME 1.x, for 2.x it wasn't usefull actually. In addition it was
> supersedded by fdo-menu (and it's loader from gnome-int)
> 
> Quit and Restart entries aren't removed anymore from root-menu when
> gnome-int is loaded
> 
> Removed ancient capplet bit
> 
> Add Session/Help -root-menu entries similarily to kde-int
> 
> Updated all commands for non-ancient GNOME
> 
> Use sawfish-wide browser-program and xterm-program instead of fully
> hardcoding those two apps
> 
> Removed all other now unneeded stuff from gnome-int
> 
> Overall (didn't meassure) code is off by 75%

Plus: if you count sound playing as GNOME int, the removal of it's
built-in (ancient) code may result in -90%

> > > - Docs for Tab and improved userguide ... Teika, GSR?*
> > 
> > Nothing. For users, wiki page almost suffices. But it's better to 
> > describe the implementation for developers.
> 
> Is the Wiki doc in HEAD (faq, sawfish, or own file)?
> 
> > > Next, when shall feature freeze start ...
> > > 
> > > 22nd Nov or 4st Dec? (+/- 12 days)
> > 
> > I'll vote later. If what's submitted is not much, then I'll prefer
> > earlier freeze, since it may result in earlier release.
> 
> It actually won't, as bug-squashing has high priority that time and I
> actually want to see some more squashed, additionally the
> widget-transistion in SawfishConfig is not finished, yet.
> 
> Even if time is not enough for GtkTree -> GtkTreeView and GtkCList ->
> GtkTreeView atleast GtkCombo -> GtkComboBox should be done. The former
> two involve work in rep-gtk, too.
>  
> > > I guess most will vote for 22nd. Well, if a feature from the above
> > > list is beeing finished between FFB (FeatureFree Begin) and the
> > > 20th Dec, it may be still included, though it must be stable, no
> > > regressions and such and you need the approval of two core-team
> > > members (which are namely: Me, Teika Kazura, Timo Korvola, Janek
> > > Kozicki, Guillermo S. Romero (GSR)).
> > 
> > It's *very* good to set up this kind of behavior guideline. Thanks!
> 
> That's the GNOME way of doing so ^_^;
> 
> > > Wishlist for librep and rep-gtk.
> > 
> > Nothing. In fact, I'll submit a doc patch for librep, but it's
> > minor, so doesn't care if it's librep-0.90.3 or 1.0.
> 
> 0.90.4 will carry it, as this release already has fixes for OpenBSD it
> will be released at least together with sawfish 1.6.0
>  
> > With best regards,
> > Teika (Teika kazura)
> 
> Regards,
> Chris