Re: [orca-list] Latex and LibreOffice on ubuntu 12.04 LTS

[Christopher Chaltain <chaltain gmail com>]

I'm not sure what versions I was using, I'm guessing it was Office 2003
and JFW 11, and I still felt creating presentations was a tedious
challenge, and it was impossible to create anything other than pretty
simple presentations. I'm glad to see things may have gotten better in
that respect.

I actually thought JFW 11 and IBM Lotus Symphony was the best GUI
combination for making presentations, but a lot of what I said above
about MS Office was also still true for Symphony. I'm not sure what's up
with Symphony development though, and I never could get it to install on
Ubuntu. I was definitely interested in playing around with Symphony and
Orca though.

It's been a while since I used LaTeX, but when I did it was with
Emacspeak and probably AucTeX. I also seem to recall using a package
called SliTeX and even gnuplot to make some pretty snazzy presentations.

On 30/04/12 16:05, Alex Midence wrote:
> A fair enough assessment, I suppose.  Yes, 2000 did really suck, 2003 was much better and then 2007 and 
> 2010 took a slight step back at least for Jaws.  I understand other screen readers have a better time of it 
> but, we digress.  :)
>
>
> Alex M
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Ward [mailto:thomasward1978 gmail com] 
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 3:52 PM
> To: alex midence gmail com
> Cc: 'JAMES AUSTIN'; orca-list gnome org
> Subject: Re: [orca-list] Latex and LibreOffice on ubuntu 12.04 LTS
>
>
> Hi Alex,
>
> Well, I'll confess I haven't touched MS Office in years so perhaps I am behind the times. However, when I 
> had to use Powerpoint in Office 2000 accessibility down right sucked. That's why I said what I said, 
> because my past experience with Powerpoint, Corel's presentation software, and now LibreOffice's 
> presentation software it seems to me by and large they haven't been too accessible up until very recently. 
> And going by what you just said about Powerpoint 2010 being accessible its probably the only presentation 
> software that is accessible at the moment.
>
> Cheers!
>
> On 4/30/2012 4:25 PM, Alex Midence wrote:
> > Screen readers do all right with presentations in windows.  I'm a corporate trainer.  I use presentation 
> > software literally every day and would be hard pressed to do my job well without one.  This is in response 
> > to your comment that screen readers don't do well with presentation software in general.  They do all 
> > right as long as stuff has text labels and alternate text similar to what you find in html on the web.  
> > It's a pity about Impress.  I used it some for reading powerpoints for a college class I took when my home 
> > pc didn't have powerpoint on it.  I installed a Vinux virtual machine and was able to make them work after 
> > a fashion.  It looks like a killer bit of software.  I  wish I could use it in an official capacity for 
> > work because the wizards are quite nice.  I use powerpoint 2010 with Jaws 11.0.1476 in conjunction with MS 
> > Office's new self voicing functionality in areas Jaws will not read well.
> >
> > Alex Midence

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Christopher (CJ)
chaltain gmail com