Re: [orca-list] Measures to reduce Orca and Gnome crashes

[Steve Holmes <steve holmes88 gmail com>]

Sticking to gnome 2 is less and less practical as many leading distros
are going to gnome 3.  Arch Linux did it last May.  And no, many a11y
issues are still outstanding in gnome 3 as far as I'm concerned.  It's
gradually getting better but it's taking a long time.  I like the idea
of XFCE but as I understand, it still requires the older version of
Orca and many good baddly needed bug fixes are in the 3.3 versions of
Orca.  So there you are; gnome is a mess right now.  I'm really
tempted to uninstall gnome completely from my laptop and install xfce
instead but I'm not sure right now the status of Orca and these more
light wait desktop environments.

On 12/30/11, Christopher Chaltain <chaltain gmail com> wrote:
> I thought Gnome 3 also had some accessibility problems and people were
> talking about sticking with Gnome 2. Have all of the Gnome 3
> accessibility issues been resolved in Gnome 3.2?
>
> Also, are these problems with Unity being reported back to the Unity
> team and the Ubuntu Accessibility community so they can be addressed in
> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
>
> On 30/12/11 08:39, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza wrote:
> > Hi Thomas,
> > Yes, I am aware of unity and its problems regarding accessibility.
> > By this reason I didn't upgrade to ubuntu 11 since I am using ubuntu in
> > my job and at home.
> > Thanks.
> >
> > On 12/30/2011 11:49 AM, Thomas Ward wrote:
> > > Hi José,
> > >
> > > I don't know if you are aware of this, but newer versions of Ubuntu
> > > don't ship with Gnome and instead use a desktop called Unity.
> > > Unfortunately, Unity isn't as accessible as Gnome so there really
> > > isn't a good answer for your question unless you want to use Unity 2D
> > > with newer versions of Orca. However, if you want an up to date copy
> > > of Gnome and still use Ubuntu you'll have to first install Ubuntu
> > > 11.10, and then install Gnome from the apt repository. Then, you have
> > > to configure Gnome to start after login etc. I can say from personal
> > > experience its something of a major hassle, and its for that reason
> > > I've dumped Ubuntu from my systems. Right now I am looking at either
> > > Arch or Fedora 16, but this business with Unity on Ubuntu has turned
> > > it into a distro to stay clear of.
> > >
> > > On 12/30/11, José Vilmar Estácio de Souza<vilmar informal com br>  wrote:
> > > > Hi joanie.
> > > >
> > > > To use the latest orca we need to update to a new version of ubuntu.
> > > > What version is recommended? 11.04 or 11.10?
> > > > Thanks and congratulations for your nice job with orca.
> > > > I wish you all a happy new year.
> > _______________________________________________
> > orca-list mailing list
> > orca-list gnome org
> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> > Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
> > The manual is at
> > http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
> > The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
> > Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
> > Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp
>
>
> --
> Christopher (CJ)
> chaltain gmail com
> _______________________________________________
> orca-list mailing list
> orca-list gnome org
> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list
> Visit http://live.gnome.org/Orca for more information on Orca.
> The manual is at
> http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-access-guide/nightly/ats-2.html
> The FAQ is at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
> Log bugs and feature requests at http://bugzilla.gnome.org
> Find out how to help at http://live.gnome.org/Orca/HowCanIHelp