Re: [orca-list] Measures to reduce Orca and Gnome crashes

[Steve Holmes <steve holmes88 gmail com>]

Concerning Arch, speakup is used but that is all included in the
modified boot image available from Chris Brannan's site; sorry, I
forget the exact URL for it now but it does not require any physical
hardware to have spoken output.  It is all console based but once
installed on your system, then you can go out and install gnome and
gnome-extra groups to get gnome going.

On 12/30/11, Thomas Ward <thomasward1978 gmail com> wrote:
> Hi Andy,
>
> Yeah, the first boot program is a bit of a pain with Fedora, but I'm
> sure there is a work around for it.
>
> As for installing Fedora my situations a bit different than yours as I
> have like three laptops and a desktop in this house so installing it
> over a telnet connection etc  isn't really a big deal. However, if you
> don't have an extra system handy there should be a way to install the
> live cd as I've seen some suggestions here on how that might be
> acomplished.
>
> As far as Arch I'm afraid I don't get you. Speakup uses software
> speech, ESpeak, just like Orca so I don't know where you get the
> notion you need some special hardware to use it. The Arch setup seems
> accessible enough as far as I can tell.
>
> That said, I know why you'd like to stick to Ubuntu. I began using it
> faithfully around v6.04 and fell in love with the distribution. So I'm
> very very upset how they've ruined it with Unity.
>
> I know Ubuntu can be made accessible, but it just seems to me to take
> 10 times the work on 11.10 to get accessibility we had in say 10.04
> just because they've decided to go Unity and we have to install a
> different desktop environment and add apps  that are more accessible
> to us. About the only thing I can think of is asking Cononical to roll
> a Gnome distribution, or at least get permission to roll my own distro
> where Unity gets dumped in the trash and all the Gnome 3.2 components
> get restored to the distrobution.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> On 12/30/11, Andy B <sonfire11 gmail com> wrote:
> > If you can install either one of those without being able to see. Fedoria
> > runs firstboot after install which wont let you run orca when you restart.
> > It also seems like way too much of a pain to use kickstart. It costs too
> > much money to buy a vm server that will let you telnet in to the fedora
> > installer from the windows host. I don’t even know how to start installing
> > arch. From what I understand, it requires speakup for a text-based
> > installer. I don’t have hardware to use that on, so looks like I am stuck
> > with Ubuntu or some Ubuntu form of linux.
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