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Hello.

For various reasons I'm trying to switch back to Linux as my primary OS.
I've successfully installed Hardy and am mostly successful with it, but
I have a few questions.

First, can someone please explain what the standard procedure for
reading email should be? I'm reading it slowly at the moment because for
each message I do the following:
1. Press enter.
2. Arrow down to the end of the headers.
3. Press right arrow several times. This gets me past a few unlabeled
tables and panels and into the message text.
4. Press +.

Compare this to the workflow for reading new webpages (I.e. load them
and they start reading automatically.) Seems like I should be able to do
something similar in Evolution.

I've noticed that, when adding new accounts in Pidgin, that characters
entered into the screenname/server name fields are spoken twice. Has
anyone else experienced this?

I've also had lots of trouble getting speech-dispatcher working. I've
mostly followed the instructions on the Orca wiki--the only step I've
not taken is to create an Orca-specific file. With the default
configuration, spd-say refuses to speak anything and, when I enable the
speech-dispatcher speech backend in the Orca preferences configuration,
it predictably fails. I've attached a log of the interaction with
LogLevel bumped to 5.

As a general Orca usability issue, if I try opening more than one
instance of the preferences app, is there some reason that Orca pops up
a dialog noting this, rather than just snapping focus to the running
instance?

In closing, I'd like to state that I'm quite impressed in what I've seen
thus far. I've played a bit with Ubuntu previously, but I've finally
gotten frustrated enough with various shortcomings in my previous
platform to seriously consider switching full-time. Last week I tried a
certain horribly inaccessible website under OS X and Windows XP with
every combination of NVDA, JAWS, Firefox 2.0/3.0 and IE. None of them
worked at all, as the site developer was doing obnoxious AJAX
server-side form validations. Firefox 3 under Orca performed well, and I
was actually able to spot just why my form data was failing to validate
on the first try. Nice work.


[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 671743] speechd:  Speech Dispatcher Logging to file /var/log/speech-dispatcher//speechd.log
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 671964] speechd:  Initializing output module espeak with binary /usr/lib/speech-dispatcher-modules//sd_espeak and configuration /etc/speech-dispatcher//modules//espeak.conf
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 671979] speechd:  Output module is logging to file /var/log/speech-dispatcher//espeak.log
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 672718] speechd:  Module espeak loaded.
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 672769] speechd:    Trying to initialize espeak.
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 672798] speechd:     Command sent to output module: |INIT
| (0)
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 802269] speechd:     Reply from output module: 1024 299-Espeak: Initialized successfully.

[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 802318] speechd:     Reply from output module: 1024 299 OK LOADED SUCCESSFULLY

[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 802337] speechd:     Command sent to output module: |LIST VOICES
| (0)
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 802489] speechd:     Got 22 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 802516] speechd:     Got 20 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 802540] speechd:     Got 18 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 802566] speechd:     Got 23 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 802590] speechd:     Got 19 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 802613] speechd:     Got 18 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 802638] speechd:     Got 20 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 802663] speechd:     Got 22 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 802687] speechd:     Got 18 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 802715] speechd:     Got 27 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 802742] speechd:     Got 24 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 802772] speechd:     Got 30 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 802797] speechd:     Got 21 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 802824] speechd:     Got 24 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 802849] speechd:     Got 22 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 802873] speechd:     Got 20 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 802906] speechd:     Got 33 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 802930] speechd:     Got 20 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 802954] speechd:     Got 19 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 802982] speechd:     Got 27 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803008] speechd:     Got 23 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803033] speechd:     Got 21 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803058] speechd:     Got 22 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803090] speechd:     Got 28 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803119] speechd:     Got 27 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803143] speechd:     Got 20 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803167] speechd:     Got 20 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803191] speechd:     Got 20 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803214] speechd:     Got 18 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803243] speechd:     Got 28 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803269] speechd:     Got 23 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803298] speechd:     Got 27 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803321] speechd:     Got 19 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803345] speechd:     Got 19 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803393] speechd:     Got 19 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803418] speechd:     Got 21 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803445] speechd:     Got 25 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803469] speechd:     Got 19 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803493] speechd:     Got 20 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803517] speechd:     Got 20 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803544] speechd:     Got 25 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803567] speechd:     Got 18 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803591] speechd:     Got 20 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803618] speechd:     Got 25 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803642] speechd:     Got 21 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803670] speechd:     Got 26 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803706] speechd:     Got 23 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803751] speechd: LINE here:|200-afrikaans af none|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803765] speechd: LINE here:|200-bosnian bs none|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803778] speechd: LINE here:|200-czech cs none|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803791] speechd: LINE here:|200-welsh-test cy none|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803803] speechd: LINE here:|200-german de none|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803816] speechd: LINE here:|200-greek el none|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803828] speechd: LINE here:|200-default en none|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803840] speechd: LINE here:|200-en-scottish en sc|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803853] speechd: LINE here:|200-english en uk|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803865] speechd: LINE here:|200-lancashire en uk-north|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803877] speechd: LINE here:|200-english_rp en uk-rp|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803890] speechd: LINE here:|200-english_wmids en uk-wmids|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803903] speechd: LINE here:|200-english-us en us|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803915] speechd: LINE here:|200-en-westindies en wi|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803927] speechd: LINE here:|200-esperanto eo none|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803940] speechd: LINE here:|200-spanish es none|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803955] speechd: LINE here:|200-spanish-latin-american es la|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803969] speechd: LINE here:|200-finnish fi none|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803981] speechd: LINE here:|200-french fr none|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 803993] speechd: LINE here:|200-greek-ancient grc none|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 804006] speechd: LINE here:|200-hindi-test hi none|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 804018] speechd: LINE here:|200-croatian hr none|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 804031] speechd: LINE here:|200-hungarian hu none|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 804043] speechd: LINE here:|200-indonesian-test id none|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 804055] speechd: LINE here:|200-icelandic-test is none|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 804068] speechd: LINE here:|200-italian it none|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 804080] speechd: LINE here:|200-lojban jbo none|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 804093] speechd: LINE here:|200-kurdish ku none|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 804105] speechd: LINE here:|200-latin la none|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 804118] speechd: LINE here:|200-macedonian-test mk none|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 804130] speechd: LINE here:|200-dutch-test nl none|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 804142] speechd: LINE here:|200-norwegian-test no none|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 804155] speechd: LINE here:|200-polish pl none|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 804167] speechd: LINE here:|200-brazil pt none|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 804179] speechd: LINE here:|200-portugal pt pt|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 804192] speechd: LINE here:|200-romanian ro none|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 804217] speechd: LINE here:|200-russian_test ru none|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 804230] speechd: LINE here:|200-slovak sk none|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 804243] speechd: LINE here:|200-serbian sr none|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 804255] speechd: LINE here:|200-swedish sv none|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 804267] speechd: LINE here:|200-swahihi-test sw none|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 804279] speechd: LINE here:|200-tamil ta none|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 804291] speechd: LINE here:|200-turkish tr none|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 804303] speechd: LINE here:|200-vietnam-test vi none|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 804315] speechd: LINE here:|200-Mandarin zh none|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 804331] speechd: LINE here:|200-cantonese-test zh yue|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 804344] speechd: LINE here:|200 OK VOICE LIST SENT|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 804371] speechd:  Module espeak started sucessfully with message: 
---------------
Espeak: Initialized successfully.
---------------

[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 804385] speechd:     Module name=espeak being inserted into hash table
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 804490] speechd:  Initializing output module festival with binary /usr/lib/speech-dispatcher-modules//sd_festival and configuration /etc/speech-dispatcher//modules//festival.conf
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 804504] speechd:  Output module is logging to file /var/log/speech-dispatcher//festival.log
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 805011] speechd:  Module festival loaded.
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 805062] speechd:    Trying to initialize festival.
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 805081] speechd:     Command sent to output module: |INIT
| (0)
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 817909] speechd:     Reply from output module: 1024 399-Communicating with Festival through a socket. Can't connect to Festival server. Check your configuration in etc/speechd-modules/festival.conf for the specified host and port and check if Festival is really running there, e.g. with telnet. Please see documentation for more info.

[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 817938] speechd:     Reply from output module: 1024 399 ERR CANT INIT MODULE

[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 817969] speechd:  Error: Broken pipe to module.
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 817981] speechd:   Output module working status: 0 (pid:12619)
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 818013] speechd:  Output module terminated abnormally, probably crashed.
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 818030] speechd:  Error: Broken pipe to module.
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 818040] speechd:   Output module working status: 0 (pid:12619)
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 818052] speechd:  Output module terminated abnormally, probably crashed.
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 818073] speechd: ERROR: Module festival failed to initialize. Reason: 
---------------
Communicating with Festival through a socket. Can't connect to Festival server. Check your configuration in etc/speechd-modules/festival.conf for the specified host and port and check if Festival is really running there, e.g. with telnet. Please see documentation for more info.
---------------

[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 818094] speechd:   Couldn't load specified output module
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 818179] speechd:  Initializing output module flite with binary /usr/lib/speech-dispatcher-modules//sd_flite and configuration /etc/speech-dispatcher//modules//flite.conf
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 818193] speechd:  Output module is logging to file /var/log/speech-dispatcher//flite.log
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 818886] speechd:  ERROR: Can't load output module flite with binary /usr/lib/speech-dispatcher-modules//sd_flite. Bad filename in configuration?
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 818913] speechd:   Couldn't load specified output module
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 819473] speechd:   Reading configuration for pattern emacs:*
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 819694] speechd:   Reading configuration for pattern *:gnomespeech:*
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 819739] speechd:  Configuration has been read from "/etc/speech-dispatcher//speechd.conf"
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 819790] speechd:  Speech Dispatcher Logging to file /var/log/speech-dispatcher//speechd.log
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 819809] speechd:   Speech Dispatcher started with 1 output module
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 819844] speechd:   Openning socket connection
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 820156] speechd:    Creating new thread for speak()
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:14 2008 : 824595] speechd: Speech Dispatcher waiting for clients ...
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 639459] speechd:    Activity on fd 8 ...
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 639519] speechd:    Adding client on fd 19
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 639581] speechd:    Data structures for client on fd 19 created
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 639739] speechd:    Activity on fd 19 ...
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 639839] speechd:     19:DATA:|SET SELF CLIENT_NAME "root:spd-say:main"
| (42)
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 639866] speechd:     Command caught: "set"
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 639904] speechd:    Updating client specific settings "root:spd-say:main" against emacs:*
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 639923] speechd:    Updating client specific settings "root:spd-say:main" against *:gnomespeech:*
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 639941] speechd:     19:REPLY:|208 OK CLIENT NAME SET
|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 640062] speechd:    Activity on fd 19 ...
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 640097] speechd:     19:DATA:|SET SELF PRIORITY TEXT
| (24)
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 640111] speechd:     Command caught: "set"
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 640128] speechd:     19:REPLY:|202 OK PRIORITY SET
|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 640214] speechd:    Activity on fd 19 ...
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 640236] speechd:     19:DATA:|SPEAK
| (7)
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 640250] speechd:     Command caught: "speak"
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 640264] speechd:    Switching to data mode...
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 640275] speechd:     19:REPLY:|230 OK RECEIVING DATA
|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 640361] speechd:    Activity on fd 19 ...
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 640388] speechd:     19:DATA:|Hello, world.
| (15)
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 640401] speechd:     Buffer: |Hello, world.
| bytes:
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 640423] speechd:    Activity on fd 19 ...
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 640445] speechd:     19:DATA:|.
| (3)
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 640457] speechd:     Buffer: |.
| bytes:
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 640468] speechd:     Finishing data
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 640478] speechd:     Switching back to command mode...
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 640497] speechd:     New buf is now: |Hello, world.|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 640510] speechd:     In queue_message desired output module is espeak
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 640523] speechd:     Queueing message |Hello, world.| with priority 2
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 640567] speechd:     wait_for_poll: activity in Speech Dispatcher
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 640586] speechd:    Message in queue p3
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 640617] speechd:     MSG before index marking: |Hello, world.|, ssml_mode=0
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 640657] speechd:     MSG after index marking: |<speak>Hello, world.</speak>|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 640672] speechd:     Desired output module is espeak
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 640685] speechd:     Incomming text: |<speak>Hello, world.</speak>|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 640698] speechd:    Module set parameters.
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 640731] speechd:     Command sent to output module: |SET
| (1)
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 640796] speechd:     Got 26 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 640811] speechd:     Reply from output module: |203 OK RECEIVING SETTINGS
|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 640826] speechd:     Command sent to output module: |pitch=0
rate=0
volume=100
punctuation_mode=none
spelling_mode=off
cap_let_recogn=none
language=en
voice=male1
synthesis_voice=NULL
| (0)
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 640841] speechd:     Command sent to output module: |.
| (1)
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 640904] speechd:     Got 25 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 640949] speechd:     Reply from output module: |203 OK SETTINGS RECEIVED
|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 640962] speechd:    Module speak!
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 640976] speechd:     Command sent to output module: |SPEAK
| (1)
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 641028] speechd:     Got 25 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 641043] speechd:     Reply from output module: |202 OK RECEIVING MESSAGE
|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 641057] speechd:     Command sent to output module: |<speak>Hello, world.</speak>| (0)
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 641071] speechd:     Command sent to output module: |
.
| (1)
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 641717] speechd:     Message inserted into queue.
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 641751] speechd:     19:REPLY:|225-1
225 OK MESSAGE QUEUED
|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 657904] speechd:    Activity on fd 19 ...
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 657966] speechd:    Removing client on fd 19
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 657979] speechd:    Tagging client as inactive in settings
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 657994] speechd:    Removing client from the fd->uid table.
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 658016] speechd:    Closing clients file descriptor 19
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:22 2008 : 658064] speechd:   Connection closed
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:23 2008 : 42380] speechd:     Got 16 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:23 2008 : 42427] speechd:     Reply from output module: |200 OK SPEAKING
|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:23 2008 : 42441] speechd:    Message sent to output module
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:23 2008 : 42455] speechd:     wait_for_poll: activity on output_module
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:23 2008 : 42485] speechd:     is_sb_speaking(), SPEAKING=1
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:23 2008 : 42497] speechd:     output_module_is_speaking()
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:23 2008 : 42520] speechd:     Got 10 bytes from output module over socket
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:23 2008 : 42533] speechd:     Reply from output module: |701 BEGIN
|
[Mon Apr 28 16:18:23 2008 : 42545] speechd:     Received event:
 701 BEGIN

[Mon Apr 28 16:18:23 2008 : 42556] speechd:     INDEX MARK: __spd_begin


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