Re: [orca-list] Evolution Questions

[Steve Holmes <steve holmesgrown com>]

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It would probably work.  Actually with one of those losses of speech
the other day, I dropped into a text console (it happened to be root)
and I did a killall -9 evolution and speech came back immediately.  I
had previously killed Orca when this happened even earlier but I found
several PIDs which I killed in succession but as soon as I started
Orca again, the same condition prevailed; no speech until I killed
Evolution so apparently, when Evolution is busy performing a task like
gathering mail or IMAP information, everything else hangs out to dry.
I probably wouldn't mind if it hung for 30 seconds or less but an hour
or more without speech is unbareable.

On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 08:53:57PM -0600, William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209 wrote:
> I can't understand why it would be necessary to kill your orca session as 
> root, since you presumably started it as yourself.  What happens when you 
> try to kill it from another console as yourself?
> 
> 
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> Bill in Denver
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> On Mon, 31 Mar 2008, Steve Holmes wrote:
> 
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> > Hey Adam, thanks for the tip of using a root login on another
> > console.  Yes, Speakup has saved my bacon numerous times when Orca
> > blew up.
> >
> > Evolution  seems to work ok with local folders and it did seem to work
> > good with gmail; it was mainly my local IMAP server where it (I guess)
> > was taking so long to do its thing but no speech, no progress, that
> > really sucked because I had no idea what was going on.  Plus the big
> > problem if you alt tab away from some dialogs, you can't get back into
> > them.  I don't know if that is an Orca bug or the way the dialogs are
> > posted or what.  It kind of reminds me of the old system modal dialogs
> > in windows where most screen readers couldn't read them at all.  At
> > least Window-Eyes got that cleared up manyyears ago.
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 08:16:38PM -0500, Adam Myrow wrote:
> >> Funny, I've not had any of these problems with Evolution.  Of course, I've
> >> never used it in any way other than where it pulls the local spool folders
> >> into itself at startup.  I already had getmail set up from cron to
> >> download my mail, so I found it easiest to have Evolution just read the
> >> spool.  I did have problems when I had it reading the spool directly
> >> rather than moving it into its own internal folders.  In that case, there
> >> were a lot of errors with database corruption.  With the current setup, it
> >> works reasonably well for me.  The most important thing is to make sure
> >> caret mode is on in the view menu.  After that, use F6 to move between
> >> the folders, messages, and preview pane.  The preview pane works best for
> >> me, as it doesn't get the cursor stuck in the message header.  Still, I
> >> agree that some progress messages would be nice.
> >>
> >> Instead of resorting to control-alt-backspace, try logging in as root on
> >> another virtual console, then doing "killall orca."  Then, go back to your
> >> X session, hit alt-F2, and type "orca" to restart it.  I've also found it
> >> occasionally necessary to kill and restart speech-dispatcher.  This is
> >> very rare, however.
> >>
> >>
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