Re: [orca-list] Few sugestions about accessibility and orca

["Albert E. Sten-Clanton" <albert e sten_clanton verizon net>]

I agree with Krister.  The default for sighted folks is to know immediately what a keystroke does.  As far as possible, whether it's with keystrokes or anything else, I'd think the default should be that we get the same info as our sighted peers, and then be able to change settings to eliminate the stuff we don't want.

Al
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Krister Ekstrom" <krister kristersplace ws>
To: "Willie Walker" <William Walker Sun COM>
Cc: <orca-list gnome org>
Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 4:01 PM
Subject: Re: [orca-list] Few sugestions about accessibility and orca


> Hi Will and the list.
> I suggest that key echo be turned on by default and that it's set to
> echo characters. That way you get feedback when you press a key on the
> keyboard and you don't have to worry about if anything is happening or not.
> /Krister
> 
> Willie Walker wrote:
> > Hi Adam:
> > 
> > Thanks for taking the time to write up your comments!  Very helpful.
> > 
> >> ===What need absolutely to be modified :
> >>
> >>
> >> -T2P doesn't say anothing when a key is pressed. For example, you
> >> press "f", It doesn't say it. I think it should say it in any cases.
> > 
> > What is T2P?  I'm guessing this might be what we refer to as "key echo."
> > If you press Insert+Space (where "Insert" is the Orca modifier, and is
> > usually "Insert" for desktop layouts and Caps_Lock for laptop layouts),
> > you will get an Orca configuration dialog.  On this dialog, you can
> > adjust the key echo settings.
> > 
> > The echo is turned off by default, which may or may not be the right
> > thing to do.  What do people on this list suggest?  Should it be the
> > other way around (i.e., some key/word echo turned on by default)?  If
> > so, which echo settings should be enabled by default?
> > 
> >> -orca/espeak doesn't work with OpenOffice.org ????? O_o !!!
> > 
> > It should!  Which operating system distribution are you using and which
> > version of OpenOffice are you using?
> > 
> >> -The way T2S read menus and texts :
> >> About menus : there is too many details that are said. Why need to
> >> finish reading something that is unselected to read the thing being
> >> selected ?
> > 
> > Something is odd here.  When you press any key, Orca should interrupt
> > speech.  If this isn't happening, something has gone wrong in the
> > accessibility infrastructure.  
> > 
> >> About text : It read only entire line. Test yourself : close your eyes
> >> and try to understand where you are in a 3-4 lines text !!! Normaly,
> >> with CTRL + Arrow you read only one word, so you understand where you
> >> are, but it still read the entire line.
> > 
> > When you arrow up and down, Orca will read the line you landed on.  When
> > you arrow left or right, Orca will speak the character or word that you
> > navigated to.  Can you provide more information about which application
> > you are using, provide some example text, and also describe what you are
> > doing to navigate it?
> > 
> >> -Text-to-speech isn't launching at login like I asked by ticking the
> >> corresponding case. I get a GTK1.0 window asking me something about a
> >> package to install called "AT-SPI"...(but the package is
> >> installed....)
> > 
> > We'll definitely need to know more about which operating system
> > distribution you are using.  Some of them support accessibility better
> > than others.
> > 
> > Thanks for the comments, and we'll work to get you rolling soon!
> > 
> > Will
> > 
> > 
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