Re: hiding an hscrollbar in a scrolledwindow

[Chris Phillips <chris thirtythreeandathird net>]

> > > you may want to take a look at Gnome2-Vte. it doesn't require gnome2, only
> > > Glib/Gtk2.
> >
> > i've looked at the super-minimal docs that i could find, and can't see how
> > this is meant to be useful.
>
> i think he meant that if you are wanting to watch some process' output, it's
> probably easier to run the process in a terminal rather than capture and
> display its output in a TextView.

ahh i see, would be  bit of a leap for what i want though, thanks 
though mr ross.

> > all i want to do is visually hide a scrollbar.
>
> there are tantalizing pointers to the scrollbars in the C structure definition
> of GtkScrolledWindow, but the documentation warns us that there are no public
> members in the structure and all data access should be done through the
> accessor functions... which means we should not bind those two pointers
> through to Perl.  sorry.

closest i could see would be to make it and a seperate scrollbar and share 
the adjustment.... pretty useless though.
 
> and since those are owned by the scrolled window and not packed in a box or
> anything, i can't really figure out how you'd get to them otherwise.  (unless
> you can talk to the guys on gtk-devel or #gtk+ and convince them that there
> should be object properties for those widgets.)

There is that much time left in the universe?

> i imagine that if you set the scrollbar policy to 'never' and then force the
> window to be a certain width, the lines wrap...  is that right?

right

> but i must say that i don't really understand why you want to hide the data
> and give no visual indication of how to get it back.  without a scrollbar, how
> will people know that the data is there?  why would they think to drag-select
> to scroll the window to the right?  it just sounds like an odd idea.  or
> brilliant.  

It's a debugging log, contains lots of useful information for users, but 
also contains Data::Dumper output of large and very boring data structures 
they won't have any interest in, so i configure Dumper to put it all on a 
single line, so i can look at it if they mail it to me.

> i haven't seen your app, so i don't really know. :-)

The most popular gtk2-perl application in the world (i think....?) and you 
don't know it? pah!
 
> if the data needs to be logged, just log it to a file, and if you want or need
> to see the details, load the log file.  while logging the data you can pick
> out the interesting bits to show in your abbreviated "good parts" display.

hmm... i think i might have seriously missed the point back somewhere... 
good idea.

Cheers

Chris

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