Re: Install GTK on windows using no official installers

[Hans Oesterholt-Dijkema <hdnews gawab com>]

That's not acceptable for  my situation. I'm using a Gtk+ binding
for PLT Scheme.

--Hans


David J. Andruczyk schreef:
> statically link your program so that is doesn't need
> any outside libs. (it'll likely be large in size and
> won't respond to theme changes (may not matter to
> you))
>
> there are other caveats to that AFAIK.
>
> --- Hans Oesterholt-Dijkema <hdnews gawab com> wrote:
>
>   
> > What would be a good way to make a private Win32
> > GTK+ release
> > independent of others?
> >
> > --Hans
> >
> >
> > David J. Andruczyk schreef:
> >     
> > > Beware that doing so (incorporating a "private"
> > >       
> > GTK+
> >     
> > > release intro your installer) will mostly likely
> > >       
> > BREAK
> >     
> > > or screw up ANY OTHER GTK+ apps on the box..
> > >
> > > I have this problem with my software (MegaTunix). 
> > >       
> > I
> >     
> > > recommend my users to use the gladewin32.sf.net
> > >       
> > GTK+
> >     
> > > runtime as it has GTK+, glade, and gtkglext, all
> > >       
> > in a
> >     
> > > simple 5 click installer.  
> > >
> > > Users report that if they had gaim installed, 
> > >       
> > this
> >     
> > > breaks things horribly.  They can't run my SW with
> > > gaim's GTK+ as it is missing gtkglext, and cairo
> > > dll.s, and instlaling the sladewin32.sf.net
> > >       
> > runtime
> >     
> > > doesn't resolve it as gaim's "privatized" gtk+
> > >       
> > screws
> >     
> > > up the rest of the system except for itself.
> > >
> > > So adding in your own privatized version is likely
> > >       
> > to
> >     
> > > affect other applications.
> > >
> > > The best "all in one" runtime I have found for me
> > >       
> > is
> >     
> > > the gladewin32.sf.net as it keeps it's DLL's OUT
> > >       
> > of
> >     
> > > the window's dir (everything goes into C:\GTK)
> > >
> > > It also includes bits that other GTK+ libs DO NOT
> > > have,  like gtkglext (openGL extension),
> > > glade/libglade, libxml2, cairo, etc.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Tor Lillqvist <tml iki fi> wrote:
> > >
> > >   
> > >       
> > > > Bleriot Trece writes:
> > > >  > is it possible to copy a set of GTK files
> > > >         
> > (DLLs
> >     
> > > > or whatever) and,
> > > >  > in this way, make GTK available WITHOUT using
> > > >         
> > an
> >     
> > > > official GTK
> > > >  > installer?
> > > >
> > > > Of course. And anyway, the degree of officialness
> > > >         
> > of
> >     
> > > > the various GTK
> > > > installers out there isn't that clear.
> > > >
> > > >  > what files should be copied, what environment
> > > > variables
> > > >  > modified... and so on?
> > > >
> > > > I could try to list them, but you learn best by
> > > > doing, so I will tell you
> > > > how to do that:
> > > >
> > > > Start by fetching from
> > > > http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/binaries/win32/
> > > > the latest run-time zipfiles (not the *-dev-*
> > > >         
> > ones)
> >     
> > > > for gtk+, pango,
> > > > atk, glib. From the depencensies subfolder get
> > > >         
> > the
> >     
> > > > latest cairo,
> > > > gettext, and libiconv run-time zipfiles. If you
> > > >         
> > know
> >     
> > > > that your app
> > > > will need the libpng pixbuf loader at run-time,
> > > >         
> > also
> >     
> > > > get libpng and
> > > > zlib.
> > > >
> > > > Unzip all the above in some new empty folder. Add
> > > > the "bin" folder of
> > > > that to your PATH environment variable.
> > > >
> > > > Then start removing stuff you think your app and
> > > > your customers won't
> > > > need. For instance, if you don't have any need
> > > >         
> > for
> >     
> > > > localised strings from
> > > > gtk+ etc, you can remove everything from
> > > >         
> > lib/locale
> >     
> > > > . If you want localised
> > > > strings, but not for some "exotic" languages,
> > > >         
> > remove
> >     
> > > > the corresponding
> > > > subfolders from lib/locale.
> > > >
> > > > If you don't need pixbuf loaders for "exotic"
> > > >         
> > image
> >     
> > > > formats, remove
> > > > those dlls from lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/loaders .
> > > >
> > > > If you don't need gtk+ input modules, drop
> > > > lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/immodules
> > > > . Also, then edit etc/gtk-2.0/gtk.immodules.
> > > >
> > > > If you want the MS-Windows theme to be the
> > > >         
> > default,
> >     
> > > > create a file
> > > > etc/gtk-2.0/gtkrc with the line gtk-theme-name =
> > > > "MS-Windows" . Otherwise,
> > > > if you don't want the end-users to be able to
> > > >         
> > change
> >     
> > > > theme engine, drop
> > > > lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/engines and
> > > > share/themes/MS-Windows .
> > > >
> > > > If you don't need the Freetype2 Pango backend
> > > >         
> > (and
> >     
> > > > you presumably
> > > > won't), remove bin/linpangoft2-1.0-0.dll.
> > > >
> > > > Hmm, that should be about it. If I forgot
> > > >         
> > something
> >     
> > > > obvious that can
> > > > also be dropped, please follow-up...
> > > >
> > > > Then you add what's left to your application's
> > > > installer. 
> > > >
> > > > Don't change the folder substructure. Keep the
> > > >         
> > DLLs
> >     
> > > > in the "bin"
> > > > subfolder for instance.
> > > >
> > > > It's easiest to put your application's exe file
> > > >         
> > in
> >     
> > > > the same "bin" folder
> > > > and have your Start Menu etc shortcuts point to
> > > > that. Otherwise you will
> > > > have to make sure that the "bin" folder is
> > > >         
> > included
> >     
> > > > in PATH when the
> > > > end-user runs your app, either by having your
> > > > installer modifying the
> > > > environment variable, using the App Paths
> > > >         
> > Registry
> >     
> > > > method, using a tiny
> > > > wrapper executable that modifies PATH, or
> > > >         
> > something
> >     
> > > > else.
> > > >
> > > > The recommended way (at least if I am doing the
> > > > recommentation) is indeed
> > > > to install a copy of GTK+ with each application
> > > >         
> > (or
> >     
> > > > set of applications
> > > > originating from the same maintainer / packager)
> > > > that uses it. This is
> > > > unlike Linux, I know. But attempts to use a
> > > >         
> > shared
> >     
> > > > GTK+ installation on
> > > > Windows between applications developed and
> > > > distributed by unrelated parties
> > > > have not really been successful.
> > > >
> > > > --tml
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> > > >
> > > >     
> > > >         
> > > -- David J. Andruczyk
> > >
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