Re: gpilotd problem

[Jack Coates <jack monkeynoodle org>]

On Fri, 2002-08-16 at 08:21, Frédéric Crozat wrote:
> Le ven 16/08/2002 à 16:44, Jack Coates a écrit :
> > On Fri, 2002-08-16 at 07:31, Frédéric Crozat wrote:
> > > Le ven 16/08/2002 à 06:56, Jack Coates a écrit :
> > > > Not sure if things are any better yet, but it seems to be looking up. I
> > > > thought I'd write down the PITA experience involved in upgrading a
> > > > Mandrake 8.2 / Ximian system to newer versions using RPMs, though:
> > > > 
> > > > 1) remove pilot-link 0.9.5 and gnome-pilot-0.64. There are a number of
> > > > dependent RPMs which you should make decisions on one-by-one.
> > > > 
> > > > 2) get the Mandrake Cooker pilot-link-0.11.3 src.rpm from
> > > > speakeasy.rpmfind.net. There is no binary RPM at this time, probably
> > > > because the source RPM won't compile.
> > > 
> > > Your problem is here.. Mandrake cooker packages are not supposed to be
> > > installed on a non-cooker (ie Mdk 8.2) system.. This is totally
> > > UNSUPPORTED.. And compiling cooker srpms on Mdk 8.2 system is
> > > unsupported as well..
> > > 
> > > But if you upgrade to Mandrake 9.0 beta 3, everything will work fine,
> > > since I have integrated pilot-link 0.11.3 with gnome-pilot/evolution ...
> > > 
> > 
> > That's good.
> > 
> > But let me get this straight -- the recommendation is to upgrade my
> > *entire* operating system to unstable code in order to get a single
> > feature?? I think I'll keep using the cooker RPMs, supported or
> > otherwise.
> 
> Exactly, because cooker packages are not designed to be
> installed/compiled on stable systems.. you have been warned.. And
> please, don't encourage other people to do the same, this is a wrong
> behaviour :
> -when people uses cooker packages, they should update them often, since
> cooker is a moving target and many problems are correctly daily. If
> people start installing cooker packages on stable system, they'll thing
> "I've grabbed this package from rpmfind, it should work" but it might
> have bugs which are already corrected in cooker..
> 
> -you are doing a bad gift to authors of software, since you encourage
> people to use unstable packages.. And there are always people who
> complain because they have found bugs in the software, which in fact is
> a package bug.. Therefore, original authors are unhappy (they don't want
> to deal with packages from vendors) and packagers/vendors are unhappy
> too because feedback isn't done to the appropriate channel (ie cooker
> mailing list)..
> 
> It is not by chance that all distros are freezing their distro and
> squashing bugs before release. It is to ensure all softwares provided in
> the distro interoperate correctly.. If you start installing
> unstable/untested software on your distro,  you are on your own.
> 
> If you want to "live on the bleeding edge", then either upgrade to full
> cooker or compile software directly from source (with all the related
> work)..
> 
> Or even better, test the beta of your distro to ensure it is ok work
> when it will be released as "stable".
> 

I have updated my clie page at http://www.monkeynoodle.org/comp/clie and
referenced the archive of this thread.
-- 
Jack Coates
Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture...