Re: short minute of meeting at guadec

[Alan Horkan <horkana tcd ie>]

i thought this merited a mention just in case others were not already
aware of it
http://openosx.com/office/


On 8 Apr 2002, Rodrigo Moya wrote:

> Date: 08 Apr 2002 00:26:43 +0200
> From: Rodrigo Moya <rodrigo gnome-db org>
> To: Rui Miguel Silva Seabra <rms 1407 org>
> Cc: gnome-office-list gnome org
> Subject: Re: short minute of meeting at guadec
>
> On Sun, 2002-04-07 at 00:46, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote:
> > Let's get a Gnome Office.
> >
> yeah, let's get it!


> > All:
> > Potential Gnome Office apps:
> >   gnumeric
> >   abiword
> >   dia
> >   sodipodi
> >   ask around for more

how about including Gimp?  (see also the link i gave at the top of this
mail)

> gnome-db is also ready to be a GNOME Office application, even though
> it's not 1.0 yet :-). gnome-db uses heavily Bonobo, which is, in my
> opinion, the thing to use as the glue for GNOME Office apps.
>
> > Jody:
> >  - gtk? for a future...
> >  - present: advantages from using glib (unlimited undo redo, and other
> >             cool stuff)
> >  - use more shared elements (like a shared zippy file), embbeding stuff
> >
> one of the best things we should start doing is to move the different
> filters for file formats to a libgnomeoffice. So, the question is, what
> do you think about moving the different filters being used in gnumeric,
> abiword, etc to that libgnomeoffice? How difficult would that be for
> cross-platforms apps such as abiword?
>
> This will give us a lot of integration, since we'll be able to
> understand all formats in all GO applications, and that will allow us to
> do very nice things, such as creating a gnumeric spreadsheet directly
> from gnome-db, without knowing about any specific CORBA interface or
> whatever.
>
> > Dom:
> >  - there's zippios (koffice and open office folks got really happy about it --
> >    we too)
> >
> what's zippios? I've just googgled for it and nothing was found :-(

you could not find it with google!!! it must not exist then.

but seriously
http://sourceforge.net/projects/zipios/

Zipios++ is a java.util.zip-like C++ library for reading and writing Zip
files. Access to individual entries is provided through standard C++
iostreams. A simple read-only virtual file system that mounts regular
directories and zip files is also provided

> > Jody:
> >  - escher drawings... how? There's no reasonable way to do it xp.
> >    what canvas can be used?

you can just about use Dia for Vector graphics Cross Platform (XP), Dia is
a great tool for drawing UML diagrams but it was never designed for
drawing pretty pictures with lots of colors
(which reminds me i never finished my South Park and other fun drawings...)

> >  - there should be a
> >  - worries with open office:
> >       * a lot of people use it.
> >       * star office is charged for money, but if there's money coming, there
> >         going to be accounting, and an year or two from now, when sun may be
> >         worried for cash it could happen that they very well stop supporting it.
> >
> > SamTh:
> >  - reasons to use gtk in other platforms: pango -- it is really good


> > Jody:
> >  - despair: if we do not share more code, when (if) oo dies, we'll have to
> >    climb the hill again
> >
> yeah, that's a very strong reason to start right now a libgnomeoffice

sharing, yay!

> >  - common code for undo redo, emf, wmf, plugins, etc...
> >
> Joaquin Cuenca just implemented an undo/redo system for Glade2 (the
> rewriting of glade), so we might want to put that code in that
> libgnomeoffice.
>
> >  - will check zippios out
> >  - will clean up io abstraction
> >
> what does that mean?
>
> well, as a last thing, let me say that I am really interested in getting
> GO out ASAP, so you can count on my help for anything about it. So, yes,
> let's get a GNOME Office.

I really really like Cross platform software, and i really like to be able
to say that i can run the same great software on both.

I would suggest that Ease of migration is the best part of cross platform
software and the Linux/Unix versions are always as good as or better.

Later
Alan