RE: [gnome-love] Where to make a policy suggestion?

["Christian Sasso (csasso)" <csasso cisco com>]

> Ciao all, this is my first email to GNOME Love (so if you DO recollect

> my name, then you have a memory problem :)
> 
> Joachim, I feel what you are saying and what David is proposing are 
> not two essentially conflicting points of view.
> David wants to give an option to GUI users to learn how to use the 
> command line: he feels user that want to go to the next level may 
> enjoy such didactic tool. His proposal seems brilliant to
> me: while performing
> every day activities with GNOME a user can also learn how to solve the

> same problems using a terminal. Such feature would be optional and 
> disabled by default, so not to get in the way of those users that 
> would be only confused by it. Please, also notice one last
> thing: adding such
> an option would not mean that GNOME hackers have to stop doing every 
> possible effort to spare the terminal to those users that would rather

> not touch one with a long stick: in an ideal GUI environment, no user 
> has to use the command line, but that doesn't mean that learn how to 
> use one is not a good thing. OK, one more point and I am really done: 
> the more fundamental reason why I *really* like David's proposal is 
> that it goes in the commendable direction of helping users to better 
> understand how computers work. And that's in my opinion is the most 
> user-friendly gift any GUI can give to its users.

Well I still hate the idea, I still think the command line is a burden
on the memory, and it's not our place to turn users into geeks.

But...
If you're really set on this, I think some sort of log window would be
better than tooltips popping up all over.

[chris] I agree, mainly because you cannot cut/copy text from a tooltip.

Imagine something like the calendar window that pops down from the panel
clock, but with a little log that shows the command each time you
perform an action.
You could save a selection from it as a shell script, or copy a line to
the terminal. (Which of course would be a GUI action... should that show
in the command list too? Unravel that paradox...!)

(still hate the idea though ;)

[chris] Too bad the only program I am working on is a little video game
for GNOME, where such a feature doesn't have a place :-(

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