Current state of gnome-session 2.23.x -> 2.24

[Ghee Teo <Ghee Teo Sun COM>]

Some of us has concerns about the state of gnome-session,  follow is a 
irc chat today with the gnome-session maintainer, Vincent Vuntz,
just FYI,
Key points: (1) gnome-session-remove is removed by mistake, should be 
fixed as a bug.
                  (2) default.session is gone for good
                  (3) Current session tab is also gone (replace by 
gnome-system-monitor)
       
-Ghee

(09:25:11) *gheet1:* question for you about gnome-session
(09:25:24) *gheet1:* who is wokring on that session management?
(09:25:41) *gheet1:* it has broken so many things :/
(09:26:13) *vuntz:* we're in the process on fixing this
(09:26:23) *vuntz:* I'm supposed to have time to work on it now, 
although I didn't have time yet
(09:26:27) *vuntz:* what is broken for you?
(09:26:44) *gheet1:* oh you are working on it :)
(09:27:21) *gheet1:* current session is not viable, gnome-session-remove 
is gone, default.session file is gone
(09:27:39) *gheet1:* I don't know how to manage application any more :)
(09:28:33) *gheet1:* s/viable/available
(09:33:08) *vuntz:* default.session shouldn't be needed
(09:33:14) *vuntz:* (ie, use autostart applications)
(09:33:28) *vuntz:* gnome-session-remove missing is a "bug" (not 
reimplemented yet)
(09:33:40) *vuntz:* and why is it not viable?
(09:34:23) *gheet1:* I meant not available in the 
gnom-session-properties tab
(09:34:47) *gheet1:* so we will have gnome-session-remove later :)
(09:36:55) *vuntz:* oh, you mean the tab listing all the applications in 
the current session?
(09:37:02) *gheet1:* yes
(09:37:10) *vuntz:* this was going away anyway
(09:37:18) *vuntz:* it should be implemented in gnome-system-monitor
(09:38:44) *gheet1:* In the process tab of g-s-m ?
(09:39:23) *gheet1:* ok, saw that
(09:40:01) *gheet1:* Is there a pointer to discussion on the application 
session management will be done?
(09:42:28) *vuntz:* there's something on the wiki
(09:42:50) *vuntz:* http://live.gnome.org/SessionManagement/NewGnomeSession
(09:46:09) *gheet1:* thanks! I am glad you are on the radar, I trust you 
won't let gnome-sesion break for 2.24 :)
(09:46:24) *gheet1:* Vuntz is becoming a valuable brand name
(09:47:35) *gheet1:* One last question, is XSMP is still the protocol 
for session management in 2.24?
(09:52:40) *vuntz:* yes
(09:52:47) *vuntz:* there might be an alternate dbus one
(09:52:56) *vuntz:* but the main one will still be 2.24