Re: [Fwd: Cleaning up CVS (Entropy Foundation Telethon!)]

[Pat Costello <patrickcostello eircom net>]

I agree with Irene. The /contrib area is performing a function that the 
community wanted as well as Sun. In other words, to act as a holding 
area for the latest versions of any piece of work that Sun does, pending 
community acceptance. Every time we submit something to GNOME, we ask 
the maintainer if this document is going to be accepted for general use. 
We advise the Sun L10N team to pick stuff up from the /contrib area 
because that is a lot more straightforward than picking up packages from 
all over the CVS tree. The various branches of the CVS tree can be 
confusing, and our current process guarantees that the Sun L10N team 
pick up the latest versions. Admittedly, the L10N angle wasn't the 
original purpose of the /contrib area, so we were capitalizing on an 
existing process.

Now, having said that, I also agree that having copies of the same 
documentation in the GNOME CVS tree seems like belt-and-braces 
redundancy. We need to look at ways to reduce the redundancy. However, 
the Sun L10N team is right now in the process of doing the translations 
on the items that are in /contrib, so now would not be a good time to 
change the process. If you allow us time until the Sun L10N team have 
finished their work, then we will work out a new approach that we will 
suggest to you all, bearing in mind the requirement to reduce 
duplication. The Sun L10N should have finished their work on the ORMs 
within the next few weeks, the GNOME User Guide will take a while longer.  

So, if it's ok with everybody we will address this issue when the 
current wave of Sun translations is finished. Please hold off on 
deleting the files in /contrib for now. Thanks for letting us know about 
this problem.

Pat

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: Cleaning up CVS (Entropy Foundation Telethon!)
> Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 10:16:35 +0100
> From: Irene Ryan <irene ryan sun com>
> To: Eric Baudais <baudais kkpsi org>
> CC: gnome-doc-list gnome org
> References: <20020908092205 GC1439 perkypants org>
> <1031533395 3910 30 camel fishdrake>
>
> Hi Eric,
>
> Please do not delete the files that are in the gnome-docu/gdp/contrib
> area for the moment. These are all up-to-date copies of the
> documentation that is also stored in the application /help/C or doc/C
> directories. The Sun doc team have been using this area to make
> documentation available to the community for review prior to adding the
> documentation to the application directories. It is also the area from
> which the Sun localization team are picking up manuals for translation.
>
> Regards,
> -Irene
>
> Eric Baudais wrote:
>
> > In celebration of Jeff's CVS house cleaning I would like to know if
> > anyone objects to the following directories in gnome-docu/gdp/contrib be
> > deleted:
> >
> > 36K     ./charpick
> > 88K     ./gcalc
> > 92K     ./gcharmap
> > 532K    ./gfontsel
> > 124K    ./gnome-terminal
> > 60K     ./gnotes-applet
> > 64K     ./geyes
> > 52K     ./screenshooter
> > 56K     ./whereami
> > 124K    ./char-palette
> > 84K     ./command-line
> > 76K     ./eog
> > 108K    ./gedit
> > 120K    ./ggv
> > 108K    ./ghex
> > 60K     ./fish
> > 68K     ./gtik
> > 84K     ./gweather
> > 9.2M    ./user_guide
> > 92K     ./window-list
> > 72K     ./workspace-switcher
> > 120K    ./gnome-cd
> > 68K     ./clock
> > 80K     ./panel-menu
> > 92K     ./cdplayer_applet
> > 84K     ./gperfmeter
> > 80K     ./meat-grinder
> > 64K     ./mixer
> > 80K     ./gdict
> > 72K     ./gkb
> > 76K     ./grecord
> > 84K     ./gsearchtool
> > 72K     ./logview
> > 84K     ./system-details
> > 92K     ./gprocview
> > 72K     ./mailcheck
> > 104K    ./printman
> > 5.4M    ./user_guide20
> >
> > I believe all of these docs are either very old or already in another
> > module, like gnome-user-docs for the user_guide and user_guide20.
> >
> > Eric Baudais
> >
> > On Sun, 2002-09-08 at 04:22, Jeff Waugh wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > This has to happen *NOW*, because canvas is running out of space. I'm still
> > > working on /home and a few other sillies throughout the system, but it would
> > > help if we cleaned out the cruft in CVS.
> > >
> > > Thus, I'm proud to announce...
> > >
> > > THE 2002 Entropy Foundation Telethon! HURRAH!
> > >
> > >  Anders has already donated libgnome.copy and libgnomeui.copy - what a guy!
> > >  Sun have donated gconf-editor.old! Between them, that's a very generous
> > >  TWENTY MEGABYTES back in the entropy pool... HOORAY!
> > >
> > > Put your bitbucket where your mouth is... DONATE NOW!
> > >
> > > Our operators are waiting for your call.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > - Jeff
> > >
> > > --
> > >    Echidnas, or at least the ones I've met, don't have joy. Adults very
> > >     rarely have joy. Kids have hyperkinetic nuclear joy in abundance.
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