Re: [Evolution] Semi-OT: How to run evolution without gnome-session?



Guys,

Unless you want to discuss it in the context of Evolution, I'd suggest
you to find a better venue to heat up the systemd debate.

This is not the right place to have a flame war about init systems
and/or session management daemons, not even in the context of GNOME.

So I will politely suggest that you guys move this discussion somewhere
else.

Thanks.


On Sat, 2014-02-15 at 21:28 +0100, Svante Signell wrote:
On Sat, 2014-02-15 at 20:16 +0000, Pete Biggs wrote:

Yes, I can by supporting something that can be better in due time, and
that's OpenRC, why don't you update yourself on that piece of software.
(it does not use cgroups, that's one advantage for example)

According to the various websites, it does use cgroups ...

Maybe I'm not aware of that, I'm following a developer and he is using
ptrace, not cgroups.

My take on these things is that yes, something like systemd is
different, there is a learning curve, but it's there and I'll get used
to it eventually - it's like Gnome 3, it was different, I bit the bullet
and got on with using it, now I get incredibly frustrated using anything
else and I find the Gnome 2 systems I use feel quite "old".

Well gnome3 has become something I don't want to use any longer,
unfortunately. Maybe the developers should listen more to the users?
I've been using the fallback mode but that one seems to be degraded
too. (never liked the 3D requirements, GUI awkward stuff, why not
having a silent desktop??)

But this is Linux we're talking about.  Nothing is set in stone.  You
are right that you should be supporting a system that you think is
better, that's what open systems are all about.  It is not for me or
anyone else to say "you are wrong", equally, it's not for you to say
that I or RedHat or Canonical are wrong.  They are decisions, time will
tell which path gets the greatest traction.

And this is way far off topic for the Evolution list!

Agreed!


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