Re: [Evolution] Idealism face plants against asphalt [Was: downloads page]

[Pascal Hasko Bernhard <pascal hasko bernhard googlemail com>]

Hi Tom,

On Mon, 2013-08-26 at 22:33 +0200, Mark Elkins wrote:
> Hi Tom,
>
> On Mon, 2013-08-26 at 20:15 +0100, Tom Davies wrote:
> > Hi :)
> > If "users will never compile anything" then why are we expected to do
> > so?  
>
> I'm a user. My choice of Operating System is Linux and my choice of
> distribution (or flavour) of Linux happens to be Gentoo.
>
> More often than not, when a package is installed or updated in Gentoo,
> its compiled from scratch... Often what is distributed by the Gentoo
> Distribution system is very similar to what one may find on a Download
> site (ie Source).
>
> Where this gets very useful is for example with BIND (the DNS) software.
> Running 'named -V' shows me how BIND was compiled (the options to
> "configure". So now I can go to ISC, Download the source of the latest
> version of BIND, then  run the "configure" script with the same
> configuration the current running version has. After a "make install" -
> I have a new Nameserver.
> So - I find Download pages very useful. I don't always have to wait for
> the Gentoo Distribution gods (the 3rd party mentioned?) to get the
> latest version ready for me!
>
> I guess the other thing I like about Gentoo is I get to learn a little
> more about what is beneath the bonnet to the point I can better look
> after myself.
>
> Remember, (1) download, (2) unpackage (tar -xvzf package.tgz)
> (around here - explore what you have just unpacked, read the README's
> and other files like INSTALL.... and look for 'configure'.
> (3) ./configure (with options), (4) make, (5) make install.

I case you find Gentoo and its way of compiling packages too much of a
hassle, take a look at Sabayon Linux. It's based on Gentoo, compatible
with Gentoo solutions and its rolling release, in fact you about 1-2GB
of updates every week. It does have a package manager (entropy), which
is the recommended way of installing stuff. And that stuff is pretty
much cutting edge. Maybe Evolution is not the latest version (I have
3.8.4), but I find it current enough for my purposes, which is
receiving/writing email rather than getting into a huff about bugs in
the latest (not so stable) release (And then complaining on this
mailinglist). 

That is not up-to-date enough for you? Go ahead and compile the Gentoo
way (yes you can do that on Sabayon if you wish). 

http://www.sabayon.org/

https://packages.sabayon.org/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabayon_Linux


If you rather into Debian use apt-pinning and take the Evo packages from
the experimental branch, that should be pretty cutting edge! :-p

https://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences

http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html


Pascal
 

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