Re: [Evolution] IMAP or POP3 accounts



On Thu, 2004-09-02 at 10:38 +0800, Not Zed wrote:
On Wed, 2004-09-01 at 16:53 +0200, nick galea wrote: 
Hi,

I am considering replacing Outlook on our network (approximately 100 
clients) with evolution.

However, i have a number of questions regarding the central management 
of Evolution IMAP and POP3 account data for each user in a network:

1. The windows logon provides a single sign on for both windows and 
outlook. Meaning that when a user changes his/her password in windows 
this is automatic for outlook too. Is it possible to achieve a similar 
thing using Evolution and active directory?
2. If this is not possible with active directory then would it be 
possible using Novell Edirectory? I.e if i would move from active 
directory to novell edirectory for signing on, is there somehow an 
integration between Evolution and edirectory which would obsolete the 
need for the user to regularly change his IMAP or POP3 passwords even if 
he changes his windows or edirectory logon?
Well you could change the system login and imap server/pop3 password
using these sort of mechanisms, but that is independent of evolution.

It wouldn't automatically change the user's 'remembered' password in
Evolution though.  Which may or may not be an issue (e.g. if you don't
want users remembering their passwords), but they will be re-prompted.
True single-signon would require the use of kerberos stuff as Jeff
mentioned.  Actually letting the users remember their password in such
a context isn't particularly secure, since they are only stored on
disk obfuscated and not encrypted and only relies on (enforced) unix
filesystem permissions for security.

If both are not available, does anyone know whether Novell is working on 
such an integration? Surely this would make sense for both Evolution and 
Edirectory users and since both are owned by Novell....
There is work going on in the identity management/systems management
area, and some of it relates to Evolution (specifically to configuring
and locking down settings), but we are not directly party to this
work.  So I don't know the full scope of it.

I agree this makes absolute sense.  And I would be quite surprised if
it isn't on some roadmap somewhere. 
And if not, does anyone know if this would be relatively easily 
developed for Evolution? If there is demand from other users too i would 
consider developing such an add-on module.
Well one thing we have on our roadmap is integration with the gnome-
key-ring thing, or whatever its called, which provides some
centralised auth system, so i've heard.  I don't really know much
about it, but assuming it is extensible, it sounds like the approach
that will lead to this goal ... eventually ... when its done.

as far as I understand it, gnome-key-ring is basically just e-passwords
- e.g. it stores application passwords in a central location for apps to
query.

might keep the passwords encrypted on disc rather than just obfuscated
like we do currently, but I don't really know the details myself.

Jeff

-- 
Jeffrey Stedfast
Evolution Hacker - Novell, Inc.
fejj ximian com  - www.novell.com

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