Re: [Evolution] Spamassassin, Junk/Not-Junk, Training

[Lonnie Borntreger <email borntreger com>]

On Mon, 2004-04-26 at 21:27 -0700, Eric Lambart wrote:
> Sending again, slightly edited... my message from 11:09 -0700 this
> morning hasn't arrived at the list, though a later one did...
>
> On Tue, 2004-03-30 at 03:12 +0800, Not Zed wrote:
> > You can do this already, simply set-up a filter where you filter on the
> > x-spam* header, as appropriate.
> >
> > The junk/not junk will run through the sa-learn stuff, it doesn't
> > actually move the mail anywhere, the junk folder is only a vfolder.
>
> Well, I just learned that this makes the Junk folder concept rather
> useless to me.  I fired up my laptop this morning, which is still using
> Evo 1.4.6, and every damned "junk" message of the last week appeared in
> my INBOX, and I had to delete them all manually.  I'm not sure if
> running 1.5.x on all machines would cause the local Junk vFolder on
> every system to contain the same messages (how could it--aren't vFolders
> local to the machine they're created on?), but I'm certain that it won't
> have any effect on my Squirremail webmail system, which I also depend
> on.

Since it (like Trash) is a vFolder of things that are in IMAP folders,
then - yes, it would have the same contents on all machines you connect
from.  Assuming, of course, that they have "learned" the same rules.

No, it wouldn't affect Squirrelmail.  For that, you need something
server-side anyway.

[rant on vFolders deleted - partially ranting reply below]

Personally I LIKE the virtual trash - and the whole vFolder concept.
The first thing I do when using Squirrelmail or Mozilla, is to tell it
to NOT move/copy the email to a Trash folder when I mark it for
deletion.  The fact that IMAP keeps the deleted mail until I expunge
makes that a complete waste of resources as far as I'm concerned.  And I
can't tell you how many times I, or some other admin, has had to yell at
people who's trash folder was taking up 100M of space (or made their
account unable to receive email since they were at their quota) just
because they never checked it.  Even more annoying are clients like
Kmail that copy the deleted emails to a local trash folder - especially
some large, bandwidth hogging message that I know is crap - which is
also why I hate any email client that won't let me turn off the preview
pane, I can tell 90% of the crap just by the subject line, I don't need
to download the message just so I can delete it.

Lonnie