Re: [Evolution] Evolution not filtering new messages

[Eric Lambart <ximian nomeaning net>]

On Wed, 2003-12-31 at 13:12, Tony Earnshaw wrote:
> ons, 31.12.2003 kl. 21.05 skrev Eric Lambart:
> 
> > > Any ideas?
> > 
> > I've encountered similar issues when the new messages are flagged (on
> > the server) as having been "seen" -- Evolution will not filter such
> > messages automatically; it assumes that since they've already been seen,
> > they're not new.  For me, this happens when I read my mail via the web,
> > then go home and use Evolution (the messages I saw in my Inbox via the
> > web won't be filtered by Evo), or when I use my laptop with Evolution
> > and offlineimap to sync my mail; Evolution will *never* filter
> > automatically on my laptop because offlineimap has already "seen" the
> > messages.  Annoying but true.
> 
> Nevertheless logical. If your IMAP server has registered the message as
> having been "seen" (with Courier IMAP, for example, that's done in
> $HOME/INBOX.whatever/courierimapuiddb - or whatever2, if one is using
> virtual mailboxes) then it's been seen. And rightly so, too.

I never said it wasn't logical, Tony =)  I was just trying to give
Volker a few clues to resolving the problem with his sysadmin.

Actually, I think it would be preferable if Evolution used a different
method for determining the "newness" of messages.  For the average user
with a single installation of their email software, the current method
works fine.  But for anyone who views their mail in more than one way,
or uses mail pre-processing software which talks directly to the IMAP
server, this makes the filtering system very clunky and it doesn't "just
work".

Evolution obviously is firing some sort of new_message event when it
becomes aware of a message which has been added to the Inbox.  I think
that event should trigger the filter action as well, regardless of the
message's "seen" status.  This is already what happens if you move a
message into your Inbox (ever try to move a message which was already
moved by an automatic filter, back into the Inbox?!).

> What Lotus Domino does is up to Lotus Domino. Lotus Domino costs $$$
> (sorry, €€€ - it sounds less) and Volker's PHB (Volker himself?) has
> paid €€€ for Domino support, so ...

For the sake of next year's travel budget, I *wish* a € was less than a
$, but I'm afraid that ain't going to be true for a while, if ever! ;)

Eric

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Eric Lambart <ximian nomeaning net>