Re: Dia-0.95

["Lars Clausen" <lars raeder dk>]

tim bogie gvds com au sagde:
> -- Timothy Bogie
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> > From: Octavio Alvarez Piza <alvarezp alvarezp ods org>
> > Sent: Monday, 30 January 2006 6:38 PM
> > To: lembark wrkhors com, discussions about usage and development of dia
> > <dia-list gnome org>
> > Subject: Re: Dia-0.95
> >
> > On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 17:27:06 -0500
> > Steven Lembark <lembark wrkhors com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > You'll have to find some way of managing interem bugfix releases if
> > > non-developers are going to keep using dia. It is a wonderful tool,
> > > but I cannot wait a year for brickwall bugs to get fixed. Even if
> > > there are new minor bugs left in the minor releases, releases with
> > the
> > > major bugs need to be out more often.
> >
> > Amen. Release early and often. CVS = some bugs fixed, other bugs
> > introduced. A big no-no for formal deployment, specially for random
> > users and always-rushing admins for which compiling it under Windows is
> > a PITA.
> >
> > This is past, though. Right now, it compiled on my Slackware 10.2 and
> > it
> > compiled and ran. I'll try something with it.
> >
> > Octavio.
>
> Geez.  Don't you think all you whingers are being a bit heavy on Lars and
> Hans.  My point of view is that they have created this off their own sweat
> and deserve some kudos and respect for what they have built.  Dia is a
> fantastic product, even for something that hasn't hit version 1.0 yet.

Thank you!  It's somewhat discouraging to be fighting obnoxious bugs for
months on end, only to be told "Why weren't you done sooner?".  While I
agree that getting Dia out earlier would have been wonderful, these
comments would have been a bit more interesting last summer.

> I
> certainly wish I had the ability to add to the code.  But alas, I'm just a
> mere network engineer.  So you could do two things instead of
> complaining:
>
> 1.  Actively contribute to the code releases, or

Aha, but here is where anybody, regardless of coding ability, can help us:
 We still have three (3) open critical bugs.  They're open mainly because
they are difficult to reproduce, so even if we think we have fixed them,
we have difficulty testing the fix.  We're talking bugs #163574, 129022
and  123225.  Repeatable reproductions of these under either 0.94 or the
newest CVS would be valuable information.

Looking at the other bugs mentioned in
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/duplicates.cgi?sortby=bug_severity&maxrows=100&changedsince=7&product=dia
would also be useful.  Even if you can't code, a good description of how
to reproduce it goes a long way towards getting it fixed.

> 2.  Buy a commercial version if you can't wait til the product matures.
>
> Dia is open source, not open season.

I like that quote:)

-Lars