Will:
While I disagree with Brian's assessment (I think he tends to lean more to the 'it's OK as long as an able-bodied sysadmin can configure the system for the disabled user' side than the 'let the user be independent' side), I'll support the decision nonetheless.
I agree with you that "let the user be independent" is best. However, I was just highlighting that GDM's a11y has never matured to the point where it was turned on by default (much like the situation with the rest of GNOME not having a11y turned on by default). Therefore, I was just highlighting that the new GDM is pretty much as good as the old GDM in terms of a11y. The main area of regression is that you can not launch a11y on-demand when a11y is turned on. The ability to launch a11y on demand is really only useful if the GNOME desktop also supports this feature (which it currently doesn't). Being able to navigate the login screen independently is not very useful if you still need someone to help you set up your user session. Another use case where the "on-demand launching" feature is useful is in terminal server situations where many users may be sharing the same server. However, the new GDM doesn't support that anyway, and the release team seems okay with that. So I don't think these a11y issues are a real blocker. This is why the long term goal is to make a11y "on-demand" launching a part of gnome-settings-daemon so it works the same in both GDM and the user session. Then I think we will have gotten to the point where we all have been pushing to get. Brian
Vincent Untz wrote:Le lundi 22 septembre 2008, à 09:46 -0400, Matthias Clasen a écrit :On Sun, Sep 21, 2008 at 8:19 PM, Andre Klapper <ak-47 gmx net> wrote:The release-team is going to use gdm trunk for GNOME 2.24. Note that most release-team members have mixed feelings.Entire discussion would have been less frustrating if gdm developers hadbeen more responsible to the concerns shared in discussions. Maybe just my point of view. Translations of gdm trunk are in a good shape. Distributors: Old gdm is still available in case you hit a regression.I'm surprised by this turn of events, after Vincent decreed that we'd go with 2.20 on Friday...See http://mail.gnome.org/archives/release-team/2008-September/msg00251.html Vincent_______________________________________________ gdm-list mailing list gdm-list gnome org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gdm-list