Re: Allowing a11y windows to be on top - bug #136159

[Lubos Lunak <l lunak suse cz>]

On Thursday 15 of April 2004 22:24, Brian Cameron wrote:
> This email is in regards to bugzilla bug 136159, "metacity allows some
> non-child dialogs to obscure WM_DOCK windows".  See:
>
>    http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136159
>
> The need to have a11y windows, such as GOK, appear above all other windows
> has been highlighted on the wm-spec list before.  Here is a brief summary
> of the discussions so far on this topic:


> + Here is where Lubos asked for a proof of concept:
>
>      http://mail.gnome.org/archives/wm-spec-list/2003-October/msg00048.html
>
> + And Havoc agreed a proof of concept was in order:
>
>      http://mail.gnome.org/archives/wm-spec-list/2003-October/msg00056.html
>
> So, isn't it only necessary to create a proof-of-concept in order to move
> forward on making this feature a part of the desktop?

 To make this clear, I didn't ask for a proof-of-concept for the actual hint 
(I agree with Havoc that it's better to have a window type for these 
accessibility windows rather than 
_NET_WM_WINDOW_STATE_REALLY_ABOVE_ALL_AND_I_MEAN_IT). I have no problem with 
adding this to the spec or adjusting KWin.

 What I didn't like was the idea of the WM handling the windows while the 
screen is locked 
(http://mail.gnome.org/archives/wm-spec-list/2003-September/msg00012.html), 
and I asked for a proof-of-concept implementation of that, as I still don't 
believe screen locking using the WM will work well. On the other hand, if the 
locking remains the way it is, then somehow the locking application needs to 
temporarily start handling the accessibility windows itself while the screen 
is locked - not very nice either.

-- 
Lubos Lunak
KDE developer
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