Re: Desktop applet windows

[Rob Adams <readams readams net>]

While I don't think that it is good idea to explicitly proscribe a
specific set of semantics for the various types, some guidelines may be
a good idea.  While not in the specification, we essentially do have a
set of de facto standards as to how the WM should behave for each of the
types, since for the most part they all try to emulate metacity and kwin
with regard to the EWMH, since these are the de facto reference
implementations.

So it may be worthwhile to document, perhaps in an appendix, what WMs
_typically_ do in response to each of the window types.

-Rob

On Sat, 2003-08-30 at 15:40, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> Am Son, 2003-08-31 um 00.13 schrieb Havoc Pennington:
> > On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 01:02:07PM -0700, Rob Adams wrote:
> > > I think that there is a need for a new window type in the EWMH for
> > > desktop applet-style windows that should behave as though "embedded" in
> > > the desktop window.  This would probably mean a window layer below that
> > > for STATE_BELOW windows but above that for TYPE_DESKTOP windows, and
> > > would provide other useful semantics such as ignoring the window for
> > > window placement purposes, not putting the window into Alt-tab list, not
> > > decorating the window, etc.
> > > 
> > > I would propose _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_EMBEDDED or perhaps
> > > _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_DESKLET.
> > > 
> > > Comments?  Note to desktop-devel subscribers; please reply only to
> > > wm-spec-list.
> > > 
> > 
> > My feeling is that desklets should actually be embedded in the desktop
> > window (i.e. work like applets). The standalone window thing is pretty
> > much just a hack. The desklets need to be coordinated with other icons
> > and things on the desktop, so need to be managed by the desktop
> > window.
> 
> Exactly what I intended to answer. Whats wrong with simply making the
> applets embedded (ie subwindows of the TYPE_DESKTOP window) ?
> Reparenting is easy enough and doesn't even need the applets to do
> anything special except following some protocol to get the owner of the 
> TYPE_DESKTOP window to reparent them.
> 
> Matthias 
> 
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