[Usability] [Fwd: Re: Your final comments on gswitchit in 2.4...]



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From: Sergey V. Oudaltsov <sergey oudaltsov clients ie>
To: Murray Cumming Comneon com
Cc: jdub perkypants org, jrb redhat com, jody gnome org, release-team gnome org
Subject: Re: Your final comments on gswitchit in 2.4...
Date: 23 Jun 2003 16:24:34 +0100

> GNOME is probably not interested in a complete "keyboard configurator" or a
That is a VERY GOOD QUESTION! Whether GNOME wants to give users full 
control over XKB. From general GNOME policy ("reasonable defaults 
wherever possible") I'm afraid the answer would be "no". But I am just 
afraid that many users are going to be left unhappy if we hide the 
features already present in gswitchit. So be carefull

> - Murray has a german keyboard. He uses an english keyboard layout with it.
>   He wants to type an o with an umlaut in gedit.
>   He needs to switch to a german keyboard layout so that pressing the
> o-with-an-umlaut key gives him an o-with-an-umlaut.
>   Then we needs to switch back to an english keyboard layout.
Occational usage, do you mean? That's what "secondary layouts" are 
about. BTW, this feature does not work if you don't add the applet do 
the panel (actually, that is why I added TWO applets - the first one 
configures XKB and these settings work even if you don't have applet on 
the panel).

> - Bob spends half his time writing arabic and half the time writing english.
Yes. Just 2 primary layouts. But that's not it. What users also wanted:
- Remembering (optionally!) layout and indicators per-window (that's 
only possible with the applet on panel).
- Configurable pixmaps for the applet
- Arbitrary commands to run at switching (there is no UI for this - it 
is configurable only in gconf)
- Configuring not only layouts (variants), but also they keys to switch 
between them (and other xkb configuration possibilities - though I 
cannot say EXACTLY which ones are really requested - that is why all 
"Options" are here today).

> I could be wrong about this. If so, it needs to be made clear what we want
> to achieve.
Yes. That's a question, that's a question. And quite probably this 
question is big enough to ask 23.06.2003 - nearly a month after the 
feature freeze.

Cheers,

Sergey
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Sergey

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