[Usability]Re: The whole panel focus/keynav thing

[Bill Haneman <bill haneman sun com>]

On Tue, 2002-05-07 at 17:07, Havoc Pennington wrote:
> 
> Calum Benson <calum benson sun com> writes: 
> > 1) The panel background will no longer be focusable, except when there
> > are no objects on it.  Instead, focusing a panel will always give focus
> > to an object *on* the panel.
> > 
> > 2) By default, the panel background will not highlight when an object on
> > the panel has focus.  Well actually, it will, but the default will be to
> > use the same colour as the panel background, so you won't notice--
> > honest :)  This means that people who *need* the panel highlight can
> > easily get it thematically, by changing the panel background highlight
> > colour.  Panels with pixmap backgrounds will be unaffected, their
> > backgrounds won't highlight regardless.
> 
> What's the point of 2) if you do 1)? 

2 is needed for low-vision and medium-low-vision users, since the panel
has no window decoration to give "coarse granularity" focus indication. 
For instance with most windows you get both an indication of the active
toplevel window via the decorations, and a more detailed focus
indication via the (dashed) focus line.

Many users may want this "turned off" but others may find it helpful.

regards,

Bill

> (Why not just make it always highlight when you have an empty panel -
> no one will have an empty panel anyway, so no complaints. Or for that
> matter, with an empty panel you could easily draw a huge standard
> focus indicator inside the whole panel, as if the panel were a
> button.)
> 
> I love points 1, 3, and 4, they seem to make 2 kind of a non-issue
> though.
> 
> Havoc
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