Re: [Fwd: Re: [Usability]List policy, usability leadership, mission statement [Was: "widget"]]
- From: Christopher Warner <zanee kernelcode com>
- To: Havoc Pennington <hp redhat com>
- Cc: Nils Pedersen <n p sun com>, Luis Villa <louie ximian com>, usability gnome org
- Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Usability]List policy, usability leadership, mission statement [Was: "widget"]]
- Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:39:38 -0400
On Wednesday, July 31, 2002, at 09:39 PM, Havoc Pennington wrote:
I used to be the system administrator for the 2nd largest advertising
agency in the world with many employees around the world; close to
20,000 or so desktops, servers the whole 9 yds.
Nils Pedersen <n p sun com> writes:
Now I'm not really sure what 5% of the desktop market Havoc was
talking about, so this is where things get hypothetical...
I suppose this is off-topic, but just to toss out an opinion, I think
it's a 5% where:
a) they are real desktop users - i.e. usability and desktop features
are relevant to them - i.e. not techie/workstation users; otherwise
you're "cheating" and not really making progress.
b) they don't need third-party native GUI ISV apps, just some
web-based apps or Java stuff, plus the things we can already offer
such as Mozilla, office apps, Evolution. (but they probably need
to work in a mostly-Windows company.)
c) they have a system administrator managing their desktop machine
Very hypothetical, though, indeed.
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Usability gnome org
What I found was that most of the users aren't as stupid as people make
them seem. They might not understand something but they are usually
quick to pick up on a methodology; some of them are slower than others.
I agree with A.. as well as B and I'm really happy B has been addressed
for the most part with opensource software.
I disagree with C; it's just not a feasible idea. In a small company
yes; however 10 people or so gets a little bit sticky to just take care
of there desktops for them, especially with Windows. There are ideas
I've shot to this list over a couple of years regarding what I feel is
the importance of allowing the user to handle simple things they can
handle already on a windows system; ways to make things easier for the
system administrator that haven't been incorporated into gnome but have
been incorporated into OS X. The Menu System, the movement of data
between programs etc etc have all been addressed in OS X infact if I
find the stuff that I rambled about I'll send links it almost as if
apple ripped it, I'm sure they didn't but anyway these are just tiny
things that I think gnome misses shooting for some other goal. It's the
tiny details that gnome misses in usability.
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