Re: Planner-dev-list Digest, Vol 8, Issue 3

["David A. Rivkin, PhD" <davidarivkin yahoo com>]

Seems to me that this is nit-picking.  I am in the UK and use GPES.  It is just hosted in the USA per the agreement.  It is a US Government Funded project so you cant expect the same from it as you would GPL based software.
It runs ASP.  If you have ASP support in you webserver, it works as long as you have MS SQL Server, a major databased used.  It does use MS Word documents for one form of report if you want, but that can be edited and made into anything you want, or just use the HTML version of the report instead and print it to PDF if you like.  The point with any opensource is, you can modify it to your hearts content.
Octopus IEM is based on PHP and PostgreSQL.  It is NOT opensource.  It is a commercial product, that is inexpensive for small companies etc.  It is in Beta.  Most more extensive with Accounting, CVS, ISO9000 etc all integrated as an IEM must be.

Of course if you only want planner but want to
 use it over the internet for groups, why not just use the database version?  Of course it does not offer the management levels so that is a bit of a miss and there are not contingent paths, stochastic data etc etc. but that it is ok for simple project planning.

Prof. David A. Rivkin, PhD, PE
Farington University Graduate School of Business.

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Web Based Planning Tools (Lincoln Phipps)
2. Levelling via "helper" scripts ? (Lincoln Phipps)


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Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 12:11:33 +0200
From: Lincoln Phipps
Subject: Re: Web Based Planning Tools
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Is GPES the one that's described at e.g. http://www.openchannelfoundation.org/projects/GPES/ ?
If so then looking at the requirements,

The technical requirements for GPES are as follows:

* 1 Web Server - Running Microsoft NT, Internet Information Server, Word, Excel
* 1 Database Server - Running Microsoft SQL Server
* Employees need a standard browser, Internet Explorer or Netscape Navigator on
their computers
* Reports generated by the system (including performance plans) are in Microsoft
Word or Excel format and can be downloaded to the user's desktop computer

One asks....
Why not Apache
Why not Openoffice/PDF export ?
Why not PostgreSQL or MySQL ?
I presume Opera/Mozilla work OK on that ?

and the real killer to this application is,
"Export Status:
Distribution is restricted to US citizens in the United States."

That represents just 5% of the worlds population. I guess the "Open" in "Open Source"
is like Microsoft's "Open Licensing". You also have to fax a license copy back
to someone. If I faxed a license copy back for every GPL/LGPL app or library I
downloaded well lets say after a few hundred phone calls...

If I Google for Octopus IEM GPCI download I get no relevant hits.

Care to elaborate on this email of yours ?. Have I misinterpreted something ?.
Maybe the web sites I hit for what you suggest are out of date.

Regards,
Lincoln (in Europe from which is forbidden to get GPES source code.)

David A. Rivkin, PhD wrote:
> If you are seeking Web based planning that is more sophisticated than
> Planner, check out GPES (from Nasa) and Octopus IEM (from GPCI). They
> are web based systems with multiple management layers for more real
> program planning that Planner does. It would be nice to have Planner
> interact with these systems databases as well.
>
> Prof. David A. Rivkin, PhD, PE
> Farington University Graduate School of Business
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Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2007 12:24:57 +0200
From: Lincoln Phipps
Subject: Levelling via "helper" scripts ?
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Was thinking that we'll never really get resource levelling really sorted out in
Planner and we need not re-invent the wheel trying to do this hard problem.

So why not provide a way from within Planner to launch "helper" scripts ?

In planner we have a HelperScriptName (stored in Project file) and a
HelperScriptPath (unique and local to the PC) and various flags and what
I envisage happening is that automatically or via a button click the helper
application is exec'd (on Windows it could be an EXE or a batch file and on
Unix it could be any shell or binary).

The helper script/app takes the data (could even be a temporary copy of the
project as XML and does its stuff on the data and then signals (via touching a
file would be cross-platform as opposed to signals) and then Planner merges or
replaces the project with the new data.

The advantages of this kind of method is that we are independent of language.
If someone has done a great resource levelling in say Prolog or Java then we
(or anyone) just have to do some XSLT to get the Planner file to the desired input
format and then reformat back into Planner XML.

It also allows for non-open applications to be used i.e. proprietary scripts
or libraries which have non-Free licensing terms or may be freeish but not
compatible to GPL.

Comments ?

Lincoln
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