Re: [Planner Dev] Planner Win32 - Cygwin edition

[Jani Tiainen <redetin luukku com>]

Richard Hult kirjoitti:
> Jani Tiainen wrote:
>
> > Jani Tiainen kirjoitti:
> >
> > > Well, finally got it working!
>
>
> Nice! :)
>
> The patch looks pretty nice, I was expecting more makefile hacks and 
> #ifdefs to get things working.
>
> I have a few comments/questions:
>
> It would be nice if we could put the win32 egg-recent parts in a 
> separate file just to make it easier to sync it (we copy and paste it 
> from libegg when there are changes).

Well in theory yes, but I didn't see the point since it's only one (or 
was it two?) function that needed to be replaced and follows way it is 
done in other cygwin ports.

> The added dependencies in the makefile, shouldn't libtool be able to 
> figure that out itself? The dependency on the executable of course not, 
> but maybe the dependency on the convenience libraries?

Well it does not in windoze platform, which has restriction to resolve 
all symbols at linking stage. You can't do things which are normal in 
*nix - you could have bunch of symbols already loaded in local symbol 
table and just load another module that resolves symbols from local 
table. Windoze doesn't have this feature - every directly needed library 
must be explicit defined for Windoze and it's PITA when porting *nix stuff.

Being lazy, I only added "general" variable to have all possibly needed 
libs/flags etc in win32_*

> > Needs Cygwin, Cygwin/X and loads of patience.
>
>
> This is the weak point I guess. It would be really great to get rid of 
> the X dependency and use the win32 backend for GTK+ instead. I don't 
> think we should commit this on HEAD since having to use an X server 
> reduces the use pretty much in my opinion. We could put it in a branch 
> to keep track of the patch and make it easier to work on it.
>
> Do you have any idea if it's possible to do a mix and match here and use 
>  cygwin for some parts but not have to use X?

Well yes, but again, there isn't non-X version of GTK package (which is 
the key here) in official cygwin NET release. It can be compiled tough 
without need of X.... (I've done it once =)

More or less another bitch thing is that Cygwin uses strict GPL license, 
that means I can't really create nice setup package to have only needed 
libs without distributing all dependant sources - and that's something 
what I don't want to do.

> I still think that long-term it's more worthwhile to continue working on 
> abstracting the parts in Planner that depend on X or unix style 
> environments and use the Windows equivalence instead on Windows (like 
> the gconf abstraction Micke did for example).

Well there is very little abstraction needed... More problems is to have 
tools to build planner without all *nix stylish stuff...

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Jani Tiainen