Re: new mime detection approach

[James Su <suzhe turbolinux com cn>]

Hi,
  I think this approch is great. Is there a patch for this?

Regards
James Su

Alexander Larsson :
> I read the mime detection threads, and considered the opinions and
> options. It seems that there is no perfect solution to this problem.
> After some discussion with dave I came up with a solution that seems to
> work pretty well, although its not perfect.
>
> Basically, we use regexp detection by default, and if that fails (i.e.
> due to no extension) we fall back to magic sniffing. However, for
> important uses (such as file properties, file launching etc) we force
> sniffing. We also sniff files when they are selected the first time. 
>
> This has a couple of interesting features:
>
> * Allows "unix-style" no extensions files to work as before
> * Does minimal I/O for directories where files have extensions,
> resulting in better performance and less HD wear.
> * Never moves around icons without the user explicitly doing something
> with them, meaning clicks are deterministic. (i.e. the icon won't move
> right before you click on it because a background sniff changed the type
> of something and relayouted the folder.)
> * Only sniffs files on some explicit action, minimizing e.g. network
> bandwidth use, while still never being fooled by wrong extensions for
> important operations.
>
> It does introduce a strange behaviour though. Clicking on a file (or
> otherwise selecting it) can change the type (and icon) of it. This will
> however only happen on "invalid" input, i.e. files with the wrong
> extensions. This is not common, and I think this behaviour is less
> irritating for a novice user than not being able to open the file.
>
> The one thing people have pointed out that this doesn't handle is the
> case of miss-sniffed files being hard for users to correct, and
> mime-magic in general only being modifiable by developers. However, I
> think that, given some work, we can make the mime sniffing pretty damn
> good. In the end I trust magic more than extensions, since we control
> the magic and can fix any issues, while we can never control or fix the
> users filenames.
>
> And for the very few cases where the worst happens with sniffing, we
> just have to make sure that the open with ui allows you to open any type
> of file with any app, then these cases shouldn't cause any
> insurmountable problem to users.
>
> I'm sure some people will dislike this behaviour, but I think its a fair
> compromise. I did some measurments of sniffing performance, and I think
> that it is an actual problem. On my (pretty fast) machine reading a dir
> with 500 mpeg files takes 3.5 seconds (just the gnome-vfs part) with
> sniffing and 0.09 seconds without it. Thats 40 times as slow. We just
> have to accept that seek times and rotational delays makes opening a lot
> of files slow, and that it will continue to be slower and slower 
> relative to disk bandwidth and cpu performance in the future. And
> latencies gets even worse with network filesystems.
>
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