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Today's Topics:

   1. [Bug 108695] Changed - 'autoheader'  and 'autoreconf' fails (bugzilla-daemon widget gnome org)
   2. [Bug 108914] Changed - Docs for Glib::Module (bugzilla-daemon widget gnome org)
   3. [Bug 108914] Changed - Docs for Glib::Module (bugzilla-daemon widget gnome org)
   4. [Bug 108695] Changed - 'autoheader'  and 'autoreconf' fails (bugzilla-daemon widget gnome org)
   5. [Bug 103688] Changed - Out of date Documentation (bugzilla-daemon widget gnome org)
   6. [Bug 108695] Changed - 'autoheader'  and 'autoreconf' fails (bugzilla-daemon widget gnome org)
   7. [Bug 108695] Changed - 'autoheader'  and 'autoreconf' fails (bugzilla-daemon widget gnome org)

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Message: 1
From: bugzilla-daemon widget gnome org
To: gtkmm-forge lists sourceforge net,
	enrico scholz informatik tu-chemnitz de
Cc: 
Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 16:12:11 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [gtkmm bugzilla] [Bug 108695] Changed - 'autoheader'  and 'autoreconf' fails

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Changed by enrico scholz informatik tu-chemnitz de 

--- shadow/108695	Mon Mar 24 12:24:47 2003
+++ shadow/108695.tmp.28610	Mon Mar 24 16:12:11 2003
@@ -68,6 +68,38 @@
 ------- Additional Comments From murrayc usa net  2003-03-22 16:24 -------
 Applied to gtkmm 2.2, glibmm 2.4 and gtkmm 2.4.
 
 By the way, why do you want to use autoheader. What does it do that
 our autogen.sh does not? In general I think that autoreconf does not
 work with GNOME projects, because they do extra stuff such as intltoolize.
+
+------- Additional Comments From enrico scholz informatik tu-chemnitz de  2003-03-24 16:12 -------
+The main purpose of 'autoheader' is the documentation of the
+#defines at *one* place. Without 'autoheader' you will have to
+change two files (configure.in/*.m4 and acconfig.h) when
+modifying/adding a macroname.
+
+'autogen.sh' tries to do the same like 'autoreconf' but has the
+following flaws:
+
+- There exists only one 'autoreconf' but a lot of 'autogen.sh'
+  scripts with diffent options and/or semantics (e.g. some are
+  calling ./configure, other ones do not).  When employing or
+  packaging new software it requires additional work to figure
+  out what 'autogen.sh' is doing.
+- 'autoreconf' has more options than autogen.sh; e.g. 'autoreconf
+  -i -f' can be used to recover from a broken build- environment.
+  With 'autogen.sh' some tasks must be done manually.
+- 'autoreconf' supports the AUTO* environment variables selecting
+  the used autotool version. Most 'autogen.sh' scripts are using
+  static command names enforcing dirty tricks like copying/linking
+  the tools to a certain place and manipulating the PATH.
+- 'autoreconf' is written and maintained by the authors of the
+  auto* tools.  I have seen a lot of 'autogen.sh' which are
+  erroneously (e.g. '==' instead of '=' in tests, special
+  assumptions about the development environment, tools are
+  called in the wrong order).
+
+Therefore, I do not like the typical 'autogen.sh'. Additional tasks
+like calling 'intltoolize' do not conflict with 'autoreconf', e.g. you
+can still execute 'autoreconf && intltoolize'.
+



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Message: 2
From: bugzilla-daemon widget gnome org
To: gtkmm-forge lists sourceforge net
Cc: 
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 06:36:26 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [gtkmm bugzilla] [Bug 108914] Changed - Docs for Glib::Module

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Changed by r burton 180sw com 

--- shadow/108914	Mon Mar 24 12:23:51 2003
+++ shadow/108914.tmp.14226	Tue Mar 25 06:36:26 2003
@@ -59,6 +59,11 @@
 string != NULL so the documentation might be wrong. If so, we could
 fix our implementation to use null if the string is empty. A patch or
 TODO for that might be appropriate.
 
 Thanks, Ross.
 
+
+------- Additional Comments From r burton 180sw com  2003-03-25 06:36 -------
+Created an attachment (id=15197)
+Updated patch
+



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From: bugzilla-daemon widget gnome org
To: gtkmm-forge lists sourceforge net
Cc: 
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 09:13:18 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [gtkmm bugzilla] [Bug 108914] Changed - Docs for Glib::Module

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Changed by murrayc usa net 

--- shadow/108914	Tue Mar 25 06:36:26 2003
+++ shadow/108914.tmp.24990	Tue Mar 25 09:13:17 2003
@@ -64,6 +64,15 @@
 
 
 ------- Additional Comments From r burton 180sw com  2003-03-25 06:36 -------
 Created an attachment (id=15197)
 Updated patch
 
+
+------- Additional Comments From murrayc usa net  2003-03-25 09:13 -------
+Thanks, Ross, I didn't expect you to provide a revised patch again,
+but it's very helpful.
+
+Could someone please apply this, on both branches. We should probably do
+s/operation bool/operator bool/ 
+though before commiting though.
+



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Message: 4
From: bugzilla-daemon widget gnome org
To: gtkmm-forge lists sourceforge net,
	enrico scholz informatik tu-chemnitz de
Cc: 
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 09:20:09 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [gtkmm bugzilla] [Bug 108695] Changed - 'autoheader'  and 'autoreconf' fails

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Changed by murrayc usa net 

--- shadow/108695	Mon Mar 24 16:12:11 2003
+++ shadow/108695.tmp.29698	Tue Mar 25 09:20:09 2003
@@ -1,13 +1,13 @@
 Bug#: 108695
 Product: gtkmm
 Version: 2.2
 OS: other
 OS Details: 
-Status: NEW   
-Resolution: 
+Status: RESOLVED   
+Resolution: FIXED
 Severity: normal
 Priority: Normal
 Component: build
 AssignedTo: gtkmm-forge lists sourceforge net                            
 ReportedBy: enrico scholz informatik tu-chemnitz de               
 TargetMilestone: ---
@@ -100,6 +100,37 @@
   called in the wrong order).
 
 Therefore, I do not like the typical 'autogen.sh'. Additional tasks
 like calling 'intltoolize' do not conflict with 'autoreconf', e.g. you
 can still execute 'autoreconf && intltoolize'.
 
+
+------- Additional Comments From murrayc usa net  2003-03-25 09:20 -------
+> The main purpose of 'autoheader' is the documentation of the
+> #defines at *one* place. Without 'autoheader' you will have to
+> change two files (configure.in/*.m4 and acconfig.h)
+
+But we have no acconfig.h
+
+> 'autogen.sh' tries to do the same like 'autoreconf' but has the
+> following flaws:
+[snip]
+> Additional tasks
+> like calling 'intltoolize' do not conflict with 'autoreconf', e.g. 
+> you can still execute 'autoreconf && intltoolize'.
+
+I'm all for using autoreconf if it works.
+
+But I suggest that you try writing an autogen.sh for gnome-hello, that
+has something like
+autoreconf
+intltoolize inside.
+
+I think it will be more difficult than you think because the
+intltoolize (and/or maybe glib-gettextize) needs to be somewhere
+inside the autoreconf process.
+
+gtkmm isn't a good test of the theory because we don't have translated
+strings.
+
+
+



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Message: 5
From: bugzilla-daemon widget gnome org
To: gtkmm-forge lists sourceforge net, gtkmmbugs rdrtech com
Cc: 
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 09:21:45 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [gtkmm bugzilla] [Bug 103688] Changed - Out of date Documentation

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Changed by murrayc usa net 

--- shadow/103688	Wed Mar 19 10:46:02 2003
+++ shadow/103688.tmp.30591	Tue Mar 25 09:21:45 2003
@@ -103,6 +103,9 @@
 
 
 ------- Additional Comments From murrayc usa net  2003-03-19 10:46 -------
 Actually, I might not have a chance to do this before the weekend 
 either. If you revise the patch then I can get someone else to apply 
 it sooner. Thanks.
+
+------- Additional Comments From murrayc usa net  2003-03-25 09:21 -------
+Added PATCH keyword so this isn't forgotten about.



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Message: 6
From: bugzilla-daemon widget gnome org
To: gtkmm-forge lists sourceforge net,
	enrico scholz informatik tu-chemnitz de
Cc: 
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 10:15:23 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [gtkmm bugzilla] [Bug 108695] Changed - 'autoheader'  and 'autoreconf' fails

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Changed by enrico scholz informatik tu-chemnitz de 

--- shadow/108695	Tue Mar 25 09:20:09 2003
+++ shadow/108695.tmp.27914	Tue Mar 25 10:15:23 2003
@@ -131,6 +131,17 @@
 
 gtkmm isn't a good test of the theory because we don't have translated
 strings.
 
 
 
+
+------- Additional Comments From enrico scholz informatik tu-chemnitz de  2003-03-25 10:15 -------
+> But I suggest that you try writing an autogen.sh for gnome-hello, that
+> has something like autoreconf intltoolize inside.
+
+When fixing two issues (replacing AM_GLIB_GNU_GETTEXT with
+AM_GNU_GETTEXT([external]) and copying /usr/share/gettext/po/Makevars
+manually into po/) it is easy to generating such an autogen.sh:
+
+| autoreconf -i -f && intltoolize --force
+



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Message: 7
From: bugzilla-daemon widget gnome org
To: gtkmm-forge lists sourceforge net,
	enrico scholz informatik tu-chemnitz de
Cc: 
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 10:53:04 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [gtkmm bugzilla] [Bug 108695] Changed - 'autoheader'  and 'autoreconf' fails

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Changed by murrayc usa net 

--- shadow/108695	Tue Mar 25 10:15:23 2003
+++ shadow/108695.tmp.16730	Tue Mar 25 10:53:04 2003
@@ -142,6 +142,13 @@
 When fixing two issues (replacing AM_GLIB_GNU_GETTEXT with
 AM_GNU_GETTEXT([external]) and copying /usr/share/gettext/po/Makevars
 manually into po/) it is easy to generating such an autogen.sh:
 
 | autoreconf -i -f && intltoolize --force
 
+
+------- Additional Comments From murrayc usa net  2003-03-25 10:53 -------
+This really is _not_ the place for this discussion, but I happen to be
+maintating gnome-hello now, so if you can send me a patch then I'll
+look at it and take it further.
+
+




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