Re: [gtk-list] Re: locales deslocalized?

[Antonio Campos <acampos ceronet com>]

Owen Taylor wrote:

> Antonio Campos <acampos@ceronet.com> writes:
>
> > I repost this mail in the hope of an answer.
> > The post has to do with the the inability of a GtkEntry for correctly
> > selecting spanish characters, even when locales are correctly set.
> >
> > Owen Taylor said me that I had set the correct locale. And my answer
> > was:
> >
> > "After your answer I read a little about locales through the info
> > system.
> > When I execute gtk programs, the locale command gives the following:
> > LANG=es
> > LC_CTYPE="es"
> > LC_NUMERIC="es"
> > LC_TIME="es"
> > LC_COLLATE="es"
> > LC_MONETARY="es"
> > LC_MESSAGES="es"
> > LC_ALL=
> > So I think the locales are correctly set.
>
> This doesn't mean anything. Try LANG=foobarbaz locale.
>
> You are running into a problem people frequently encounter.
> When looking up locales, locale names are never lengthed,
> only shortened. So you can't get from es to es_ES. And
> GNU libc does not include an es locale -- it only includes
> an es_ES locale.
>
> > That induced me to investigate a little further. I made the following
> > program:
> >
> > #include <stdio.h>
> >
> > void main()
> > {
> >   char c='Ñ';
> >
> >   if (isalpha (c))
> >     fprintf (stderr,"The character `%c' is alphabetic.\n", c);
> > }
> >
> > With exactly the same locale configuration as before, the program didn't
>
> >
> > produce any output (and that wasn't supposed to occur).
>
> If you include locale.h and call setlocale(LC_ALL, "") at the
> top of your program, and use a settting of LANG=es_ES, I think
> you'll see more what you expect. Havoc's comments about gtk_set_locale()
> and gnome_init() are accurate. (Also, make sure to check to see
> if you have a LC_ALL environment variable set, since that
> overrides LANG)
>
> [...]
> > Maybe UNICODE will finish all these silly problems?. I hope so :^)"
>
> It will make things somewhat better. Though the need for locale
> settings will not go away, for things like  translating messages,
> printing dates, ordering text, etc.
>
> Regards,
>                                         Owen
>
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Well, thanks, now everything works fine...
Now gtkentries get the right alphabetic characters.

I think that newer RedHat Distributions should put a line like this in
/etc/profile:

export LC_ALL=es_ES

when I select spanish language during the installation.