Re: Re: Re: Really Quick Mockup

["rpmuldoon students wisc edu" <rpmuldoon students wisc edu>]

Original Message:
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From: Joakim Ziegler joakim helixcode com
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 12:25:58 -0600
Subject: Re: Re: Really Quick Mockup


On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 03:13:12AM -0500, rpmuldoon students wisc edu wrote:

>> Looks nice. I have a couple of problems with the colors. Basically,
>> everything looks like I turned brightness on my monitor up a few notches.
>> Everything's very low contrast and hard to read (especially the body text).

> The body text is definitely one of the things I wanted to think about.  I
> like the charcoal, and find it to be a bit "softer," but I don't know how
> usable it is.  I'd have no problem switching to black if that is what we
> agree on.  But I do think that the charcoal is nicer.

I think it would have to be either black or quite a few shades darker. IT
does indeed look "softer", but that's also part of the problem.

<me> ok.......I can concede that if I must. ;-)

>> I'd like to see some darker colors thrown into the mix, this is a bit
>> "wimpy" for my taste.

> I definitely want to use some stronger colors.  I tried to initially, but
> you can't use dark colors for the background of dark text.  I have an
> aversion to white text, so I tried to make things work nicely with black
> text.  My thinking was that the highlight colors would be the lighter shade
> of the main color for the particular sections.  That would give us the darker
> colors.  Another way is to use a (gnomeish) icon for the section headers.  It
> would make the page a little more interesting, I think.  I like how digitect
> tried to use icons initially.  I don't think we should have one for every
> menu item, but for sections, it might be nice.  That does, of course, put
> greater requirements on the artists of the group.  I know I can't make nice
> icons, so I didn't want to push it as a requirement.  But if someone is able
> to do them, it would look good.

Strong colors should probably come into play in edges, accents, icons, and so
on. I'm still uncertain about requiring icons, just because of the obstacle
it presents when you need to add something.

<me> I agree that those places are where strong colors would come in......so is there something that we are disagreeing on here?  I don't think so, but maybe I'm not seeing it.  I agree that icons add extra work, but doing them for sections lessens the burden, because I doubt that we'll be changing sections that much.  And we need some kind of art, to make the pages not feel overly text-heavy (like my current mockup).

I won't have time to make any changes on my stuff until after Christmas....if someone else wants to, feel free to.  After the 25th I should have some time though.

    --Ryan



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