Re: My little wishes list on VFS

[dannym <danny milo gmx net>]

Hi,

Am Dienstag, den 03.01.2006, 13:38 +0800 schrieb Shu Hung (Koala):
> Hello,
>  
> 2006/1/3, dannym <danny milo gmx net>:
>         Hi,
>         
>         Looks like the right place :)
>  
> Good to hear that :)

>>[...]
>  
> VFS is set and mount by user. Different server (e.g. FTP, SMB, WebDAV)
> may have different encoding but not all protocols have encoding
> information
> carried.
> 
> I have setup a FTP server on my Windows with Filezilla Server. My
> Windows 
> workstation uses big5 (Chinese Traditional) as default encoding. When
> I use
> VFS to mount it, I always get filenames like "This is My XXXXX.mpg
> (invalid unicode)"
> and I can do nothing on it.

I see

>  
> I'm not sure if auto-detect is the best idea. 

No.

> Encoding detection for Chinese
> characters always goes wrong. If I take my experience on browser,

>  detection
> get wrong result 1 time out of 20. If auto-detection get me wrong,
> user will 
> need a way to fix it.

Yes. I'm arguing that one should put a info file containing the encoding
on the FTP *server* instead and gnome-vfs should read that to find the
encoding.

i.e.
ftp server:

encoding.info
foo.txt
data.blabla

encoding.info containing the actual encoding to use.

> 
> I think it is better to give user an "Advanced" option menu like
> Filezilla 3.

Did you see the output of "iconv -l" ? especially it's length (number of
encodings)

> By default, VFS will autodetect the encoding of the filesystem. But
> user
> can, on other hand, set the default encoding of the filesystem to
> mount. 

[...]

>  
>         >         I have a workstation with fileilla server on Windwos
>         XP. The
>         >         filesystem is in Big5 
>         >         but seems VFS does notice that. It would be best to
>         let user
>         >         to configure the
>         >         charset of a VFS folder instead of just use UTF-8.
>         
>         It would be best if the darn protocol figured out the charset
>         on it's 
>         own and stopped bothering the user with gibberish ;)
>  
> I agree if the detection ALWAYS success. 

> If not, user should be able
> to fix it on GUI. I think an "Advanced Option" button and extra option
> dialog is useful in case.

I'd like the encoding to be specified on the ftp server instead (in an
extra file that is served)
> 
>  
>         >
>         >      1. agreement between menu icon reaction and desktop
>         icon reaction
>         >         it is a little bit confuseing with the desktop icons
>         and menu 
>         >         icons. If you right click
>         >         the icon menu, the folder will show up. However, if
>         you right
>         >         click the desktop icon,
>         >         it gives you a menu for properties and unmount. It
>         would be 
>         >         best if I can get the
>         >         menu for properties and unmount when I right click
>         either one
>         >         icon.
>         
>         What do you mean? What menu icon? Where?
>  
> In Gnome 2.12, there are 3 menu on the top-left corner: "Application",
> "Location"
> and "Settings". Creating a new VFS will automatically create an icon
> on "Location"
> menu and the destop. If you right click icon on "Location" menu, you
> will open 
> the folder. If you right click the desktop menu, you will open an
> option menu right
> next to the icon.

yeah... true. That's because of the menu. Can be fixed though :)
> 
>  
>         Yeah, admin setting, desireable. As a side note, having ~ 100
>         volume
>         desktop icons show up on the desktop of a storage area network
>         is weird, 
>         believe me ;)
>  
> I think it is best to put it in "Advanced Option" too.
> 
>  
> 
>         What menu is that?
>  
> The menu that you'll get when you right click a desktop icon.
> 
>  
>         >         If so, right-clicking the icon on location menu
>         would give a
>         >         menu with these options: 
>         >              1. Add this item to panel
>         >              2. Add this item to desktop
>         >              3. Unmount thie filesystem
>         >
>         What application?
>  
> Gnome's "Location Menu"

Yeah, good idea
> 
>         > These are just my little wishes to VFS and I think most
>         people would
>         > be happy to see these. 
>         
>         Well, first and foremost I'd like the underlying problems to
>         be fixed.
>         If that is not possible, I'd like workarounds for admin
>         settings on the
>         _server_ side be implemented and if that fails too, I'd like
>         it to break 
>         really badly so the server author gets a lot of complaints and
>         fixes the
>         darn program :)
>         
>         cheers,
>           Danny

>  
> Encoding may be a problem of the FTP protocol itself. Unless FTP will
> have a big revolution over encoding, 


> it is better to find other solution.

Like putting a file containing the encoding on the FTP server :)

> 
> Thanks for reply
>  
> Koala Yeung
>  

cheers,
   Danny