Re: [Muine] Re: Introducing Muine, Rhythmbox in 2.8 and other things

On Sat, 2004-05-08 at 07:23, Jorn Baayen wrote:

> Yes, Rhythmbox works well for the picker people. And Muine works at
> least as well there: The "Play album"/"Play song" buttons .. 

Oh, I agree it supports it, I'm just not sure it's as straightforward.

> Rhythmbox/iTunes playlist creation is unfortunately extremely
> counter-intuitive. Many people have no clue they should drag songs to
> the "list row on the left" to put them into that playlist .. 

That's true, it is a problem.

On the other hand, I'm not sure Muine's groups and playlist filling is
going to be very intuitive at first either for people who want to
shuffle music (which seems to be a surprisingly high percentage of what
Rhythmbox users do, something I hadn't realized until recently).

> Not really. Looking at Link's iradio mockup and muine, the only thing in
> common are the playback buttons. And like I said in my other mail, the
> tray icon could be shared. The tray icon's 'pause' command would apply
> to whatever is playing, and it would include commands like "Play
> album"/"Play song"/"Play station".

And Play CD?  It would also be confusing what things like next/previous
apply to if playback is stopped.  Which application do you hide on
left-click?  And who handles multimedia keys if you have both open?

> I agree it is a fundamental piece of software for a lot of people. But
> the GIMP is too for many. Does that mean we include the GIMP in the core
> desktop?

I think most people play music, while very few edit images :)

> No, but epiphany is innovative (the bookmarks system!), qalculate is an
> innovative piece of software, evolution 1.5 is no longer just an outlook
> clone, etc.

I think Rhythmbox is not an iTunes clone to the same extent that
Evolution 1.5 isn't an Outlook clone, personally.  They're each
obviously inspired by their counterpart, but have improved and

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