RE: gnome-list digest, Vol 1 #1711 - 14 msgs

["David Murphy" <glibdud hotmail com>]

From: Telsa Gwynne <hobbit aloss ukuu org uk>:
> On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 02:01:55AM -0500 or thereabouts, David Murphy 
> wrote:
> > Hi folks. I'm running a Linux From Scratch system. This problem plagued 
> me
> > for a while at Gnome 2.2, and it's still around after an upgrade to 2.4.
> > When I execute gnome-terminal, it pulls up a terminal window, but then
> > gives me nothing. The cursor blinks away at the upper-left corner of the
> > window, but I never get a prompt, and it won't accept any input. 
> Executing
> > vte has identical symptoms (though a different-looking window). This
> > happens on my non-root user, but the terminals work just fine as root.
> > Sounds like a permission problem, but examining a few obvious suspects
> > produced nothing. I found a similar problem discussed long ago in the 
> list
> > archives, but I didn't get anything out of that.
> > Basically, to start with, can someone give me a brief list of 
> possibilites
> > for file permission problems?
>
> To narrow it down: does it happen with konsole (KDE's terminal) and
> with xterm too? If these are not on your panel menus, you could
> start them via the "command line applet" or whatever it's called.

Ahah. Ok, I don't have konsole, but xterm works. (Why didn't I try that 
before? *sigh*)

> The long-ago one might have been something to do with the
> permissions on /dev/ptmx on Linux 2.2 systems? Should be
> 666 (owner.group: root.root). It's still that on my Linux 2.4
> machine. If you have LinuxFromScratch, then does that mean
> you have a 2.6 kernel? I don't know anything about changes
> in that.
>
> Not heard of the /dev/ptmx one cropping up for a year or so,
> but I have vague memories of it from some time ago.

Well, this was the LFS book from a year or so ago, using the 2.4.20 kernel. 
I've been thinking about upgrading, and this might be a good time, as I've 
just noticed some funny business in my kernel config. I had decided (rather 
arbitrarily) to not go with the Unix98 devpts system. However, for some 
unknown reason I enabled it (CONFIG_UNIX98_PTYS) in the kernel, but without 
enabling CONFIG_DEVPTS_FS as it says you're supposed to do.

So, although I don't see why vte/gnome-term shouldn't work if xterm works, I 
suppose it's better that I get my kernel straightened out anyway. (Besides, 
I wanna mess with video4linux 2 :) )

> > Another bug from 2.2 (haven't tested it in 2.4)... as non-root, if I 
> opened
> > two terminal windows and then closed one, Gnome would die, and gdm would
> > recycle to the login screen. Don't know if that's related or not.
>
> Erm, wow. That sounds like an X crash to me. At least, an X crash
> is often what causes the symptoms of "GDM recycles to the login
> screen": GDM checks to see whether X is running. If X is not
> running, then GDM restarts it, and throws up the graphical login
> screen. Hence, in the wake of a crash, GDM restarts X.

Update: that one apparently went away in the upgrade to 2.4.

Thanks,
-David Murphy

_________________________________________________________________
Let the advanced features & services of MSN Internet Software maximize your 
online time. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200363ave/direct/01/