Re: Micro$oft-style dragable, resizable, stackable menu/button bars.

[Miles Lane <miles amazon com>]

Thanks for the clarification.

I think the "make XXXbar take up a whole row" option is extraneous.
If toolbars can be dragged and dropped, I would think that any bar
that is placed alone on a bar should expand to occupy the entire
row, instead of being display as a box around the UI elements (buttons
or menu items).

NOTE:  The bars that are currently implemented in Gnumeric *do not do this*.
Instead, the width of each toolbar is fixed.

Miguel has informed me that Anders Carlson (andersca@gnu.org) has written
a hack for the toolbar code that allows toolbars to shrink when a window
is resized smaller than the contents of the toolbars.  The behavior is that
some toolbar elements essentially drop out of sight past the right edge
of the toolbar.  I have not yet checked out this implementation.  It doesn't
solve all the toolbar needs, but it is a step in the right direction.

-miles

u07ih@abdn.ac.uk wrote:
> 
> I wasn't advocating putting anything into the same place as the menubar by
> default. I was saying how easy it would be to make it possible.
> But at the moment, nothing can go onto the menu bar, as the menu bar
> has it's row in the gnome-dock exclusively. If the GNOME_DOCK_ITEM_BEH_EXCLUSIVE
> flag is removed, then things can go in the menu bar, if you want them too, or
> they can stay where they are....your choice.
> Maybe this should go into the ui-properties capplet
> "[x]Menu bar takes up whole row"
> "[ ]Toolbar takes up whole row"
> 
> Iain
> >
> > In the case of the addressbar, it may be best to not embed it in the
> > menubar.  The notion is to allow users to move bars around as they wish.
> > For me, this is useful.  If I am surfing a site with long URLs and I want
> > to see most of the URL, I might drag the addressbat to its own row.
> > Otherwise, I'd probably tuck it into a corner of a row so that I could
> > type URLs and paths in on an occaisional basis.
> >
> > u07ih@abdn.ac.uk wrote:
> > >
> > > > The benefit of having less blank space and more room to work is a great UI
> > > > enhancement IMHO. The ability to have the menubar, buttonbar and addressbar
> > > > of IE on the same line (saving about 60pxls of vertical space) is priceless
> > > > (for me at least :-)
> > >
> > > I agree about putting the addressbar on the same line as the menus. It gives
> > > more room for the html :)
> > > It would take 2 changes I think in the gnome-app.c file. From what I can tell
> > > the GNOME_DOCK_ITEM_BEH_EXCLUSIVE flag needs to be removed from
> > > gnome_app_set_menus and gnome_app_set_toolbar
> > >
> > > Iain
> >