RE: The State Of The Art

["Fox, Kevin M" <KMFox mail bhi-erc com>]

Well, as long as we are getting into 3d conversation, would a 3d window
manager work better? Create a 3d engine using OpenGL/Mesa that draws the
windows in 3d. Using the wonderful GTK engine idea a 3d engine can be
created for GTK to give buttons depth. All GTK programs would work and
display in the 3d world. The overhead of the 3dness can be removed by using
hardware acceleration. The voodoo 3 is quite nice :). The difficult thing
would be to make the 3d engine. I recall some 3d engine project from a while
ago... This would be very cool because the people with 3d hardware
acceleration can have there 3d world, and the people that have 486s can use
the default GTK theme and fvwm... Scalability is a good thing :)

-----Original Message-----
From: Christian Lavoie [mailto:clavoie@enter-net.com]
Sent: Monday, May 24, 1999 2:22 PM
To: Dr Geek
Subject: Re: The State Of The Art


> >(Stand in the middle of a sphere, and have a plane perpendicular
> >(which represents the screen) to your field of view go away from you
> >on a radius of the sphere, the last point would be right in front of
> >your viewpoint, where the center of the window is, so all else would
> >be before that point, from your perspective.)
> Hum - I hadn't thought of using real 3d, partly because of the CPU 
needs,
> partly because 3d interfaces are a whole other ballgame.  I was just 
using
> the sphere conceptually; the part of the sphere that you could see 
would
> always be flat and up "against the glass" of your monitor (like a 
spherical
> balloon pushed up against a flat surface).
> Otherwise all your windows need to be distorted, and therefore become
> unreadable.
> dr g

1) Actually, I thought that only the center of the window would be on 
the sphere, preventing distortion, the window being flat... the 
corners of that window would actually rest on another hypothetical 
sphere's edge.

Without true 3D, I think it'll be hard to present a small model of the 
sphere anyway.

2) True 3D apps are becoming easier in today's world with more 
powerful computers. Whether or not you go for a real 3D environment 
depends on the goals of the project, though I think you should aim the 
higher you can. When 2d flat UIs first started, the CPUs were on their 
knees too. Let's just say you'd be writing the standard for computers 
in 5 years from now.

3) 3D Environment are crap today, I have to agree. Though I don't 
think this is because the idea itself sucks. Only the implementations.

Christian Lavoie
clavoie@enter-net.com
UIN: 947212




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