RE: GNOME Usability Improvements - Fix the window manager!

["Fox, Kevin M" <KMFox mail bhi-erc com>]

Personally, I like the right click unmount menu. But, most users that I look
after cant grasp the concept of right clicking. Having an eject icon on the
desktop would help these users. But keep the menu's for us. :)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Frantzdale [mailto:frantzdb@admin.arhs.net]
> Sent: Monday, August 09, 1999 8:30 AM
> To: Fox, Kevin M
> Subject: RE: GNOME Usability Improvements - Fix the window manager!
> 
> 
> I think people agree that the eject=trash thing is prety much 
> out. I'd say
> that this may not be the place for a drag option at all, just 
> a context
> menu.(IMHO)
> 
> The thing about the mac is that that one software action (the drag to
> trash) physicly ejects the disk. For most of us (running on 
> PCs) we have
> to right click on the icon, select unmount, then manualy 
> eject the disk.
> 
> Can it be set up so that the eject button on the CDROM/zip 
> drive unmounts
> and ejects the media? 
> 
> --Ben
> 
> On Mon, 9 Aug 1999, Fox, Kevin M wrote:
> 
> > I agree with everything BUT the trashcan idea. The first 
> time I used a mac,
> > it scared the hell out of me to eject a disk. Throwing a 
> disk away (when it
> > normally deletes files) is a BAD design. It scares users. 
> If you want
> > something to drag over, make an icon on the desktop called 
> "Eject" and drag
> > your device over that.
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Michael Stearne [mailto:MStearne@EISolutions.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, August 06, 1999 10:55 AM
> > > To: thomas.hedler@fen.baynet.de
> > > Subject: Re: GNOME Usability Improvements - Fix the 
> window manager!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thomas Hedler wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > On 06-Aug-99 Ben Frantzdale wrote:
> > > > > One other anoying thing is that you can't eject the 
> CD with the
> > > > > button on
> > > > > the CDROM. and you can't eject the floppy with the 
> physical eject
> > > > > button
> > > > > withought unmounting it first else the computer complians :-)
> > > > > --Ben
> > > > 
> > > > Where is the problem? If Windows accesses the CDROM and 
> you open the
> > > > eject button, you would get a blue screen. If you press <ESC> or
> > > > <retry> it sometimes crashes completely. Do you really want 
> > > this? ;-)
> > > > 
> > > > Only because windows has this behaviour it needn't to be a good
> > > > behaviour!!!
> > > > 
> > > > The users have to learn some things. If they don't want to learn
> > > > something they should use windows or better buy a Mac.
> > > 
> > > How will Linux ever be a desktop platform with this thinking?
> > > 
> > > Users shouldn't HAVE to learn things, they should have 
> the option of
> > > learning things if they want to.  You can avoid the the blue 
> > > screen, by
> > > locking the eject button on a CD drive like Macs do.  Mounting and
> > > unmounting of media is done right on the Mac, why can't this 
> > > method just
> > > be used in Linux?  Have a "Trash" Can on the Desktop and 
> drag the CD
> > > there to unmount it. There is no reason to re-invent the 
> > > wheel if there
> > > is a suitable solution out there. Just because a method is used by
> > > another OS besides Linux doesn't mean it is wrong. 
> > > 
> > > Michael Stearne
> > > 
> > > 
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