Re: Here's an RPM fix!

["Gene C." <genec mindspring com>]

I agree that this conflict between the stable/production and development
versions of gtk+ is a problem and certainly has caused me to spend time
"fixing" things that could be spent more productively elsewhere but I think
you may have the "wrond end" of the problem.  Your fix is something that
you or I or others can do themselves.  However, a better fix is for the
gtk+/gnome developers (I hope you are listening) to change the name of the
the gtk+ rpm that is needed by gnome (perhaps to something like gtk+-DEV or
gtk+-gnome or gnome-gtk+.

While there is still a conflict with the development libraries/header
files, at least the regular shared libs can coexist with the above change
(or your fix).

It is too bad that the developers did not consider that their versions of
libraries and other files might have to coexist with "production" versions
and put all of the gnome code into some other directory structure and use
additional PATH and LD_LIBRARY variables.  At some point it may still be
desirable to do this when even developers would like to be able to run both
a "production" version and a "test" version on the same system without
rebooting to a different system (which is what I now do).

Gene


At 08:36 PM 5/30/98 -0400, Gleef wrote:
>OK, one of my big gripes with RPM is how it handles libraries (I don't
>know if DEB is any better).  Lets say you need a stable version and a
>development version of a library on a system.  With both versions of the
>package installed, it is difficult to update the development version,
>since using the -U flag will try to delete the stable version as well.
>
>This is a particular problem with the gtk+ libraries for those of us who
>are using the RPMs in part or in whole for our GNOME installations.  I've
>uploaded to ftp.labs.redhat.com/pub/incoming a source and binary rpm to
>make this easier.  gtk+-stable-1.0.3-1.i386.rpm contains the 1.0.3
>version of libgtk, libgdk and libglib.  Here's a typical installation:
>
>  $ rpm -q gtk+
>  gtk+-1.0.2
>  gtk+-1.1.0-1998052517
>  
>  $ rpm -e gtk+-1.0.2
>  removing these packages would break dependencies:
>        libgtk.so.1 is needed by control-panel-3.5-1
>        libgtk.so.1 is needed by usermode-1.4-1
>        libgtk.so.1 is needed by usernet-1.0.6-1
>        libglib.so.1 is needed by control-panel-3.5-1
>        libglib.so.1 is needed by usermode-1.4-1
>        libglib.so.1 is needed by usernet-1.0.6-1
>        libgdk.so.1 is needed by control-panel-3.5-1
>        libgdk.so.1 is needed by usermode-1.4-1
>        libgdk.so.1 is needed by usernet-1.0.6-1
>        gtk >= 0.99.970925 is needed by usermode-1.4-1
>
>  $ rpm -e gtk+-1.0.2 --nodeps
>
>  $ rpm -ivh gtk+-stable-1.0.3-1.i386.rpm
>  gtk+-stable ##################################################
>
>Now everything that uses the stable version of the gtk libraries will be
>using the version in gtk+-stable, and you can upgrade gtk+ to your hearts
>content.  When they come out with gtk+-1.0.4, gtk+-stable can be upgraded
>independantly.
>
>Note that, like other versions of gtk+-1.0, the version in gtk+-stable is
>not binary compatible with some older gtk programs, such as the RedHat 5.0
>version of control panel.
>
>If this package is thought of as a useful thing, someone should build the
>alpha version, and they should be moved into the support directory on the
>ftp site.
>
>Enjoy.
>-Gleef
>
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