Re: A Proposal For The Addition Of Color-Reactiveness To The GNOME Desktop
- From: raster redhat com
- To: silovic zesoi fer hr
- cc: bjp primenet com, gnome-list gnome org, gnome-gui-list gnome org
- Subject: Re: A Proposal For The Addition Of Color-Reactiveness To The GNOME Desktop
- Date: Wed, 20 May 1998 09:57:17 -0400 (EDT)
On 20 May, Miroslav Silovic shouted:
->
-> I like color reactiveness a lot, and I pestered Raster to add hue
-> shifts to Imlib on a few occasions. There are a few notes, though:
->
-> Bowie Poag <bjp@primenet.com> writes:
->
-> > A: "The code responsible for color-reactiveness can (and should) be
-> > tied directly to /proc, or something which watches /proc for you.
->
-> This is absolutely unacceptable, as GNOME is supposed to be portable
-> (not all unices have /proc, and those that have (Solaris) don't use
-> the same format).
->
-> Lamps and beacons (if I understand them correctly) are tied to windows
-> and their icons. This means that they should fall under Window
-> Manager's jurisdiction. From there, there are a few things to do:
->
-> 1) WM hints: Application should be able to send its status to WM as one
-> of the extra hints. This, in fact, is a great idea regardless of
-> whether it's used for color reactive desktop elements or some other
-> way of status displaying. So, the question to then WM team: would
-> it be feasible to add WM hints that allow the apps to tell their
-> activity status to the WM - WMs can implement it later at leisure.
-> Thing is, the idea if 'activity' varies with the application, so
-> each should be able to implement its own idea of tracking (within
-> some sort of standard guidelines).
Um.. I think we need a much more precise definition of "status" before
anything like this can be done... is statuse just running or not? is it
running, waiting for somehting, sleeping, awating input, ... ? this
would be best done by property hints... can be implimented in a flash..
if I just know what there is...
-> 2) default behaviour: Noncompliant applications won't set their hints.
-> There is a question of default, in that case: the problem is that
-> network apps would be active/inactive depending on their I/O status,
-> while CPU bound apps would be active if OS isn't swapping them too
-> much. I think the reasonable default for color tracking WMs would
-> be CPU usage reported by gtop library, but for now, gtop isn't
-> portable. Or just colormark only the apps that ask for it.
->
-> 3) gmc: I could think of a few ways to colorize (or beaconize) icons
-> withing the file manager - by filesize, or age.
->
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