Re: [Usability]Some UI review bugs filed

[Janne Morén <jan moren lucs lu se>]

Basically, no.

You could mangle the language horribly and say something like "Hemmet
som är menthos'" (the home that is menthos), but apart from sounding
ridiculous, you'd _still_ have the exact same problem with the name
ending.


On Mon, 2002-11-18 at 23:47, Gil 'Dolfin' Osher wrote:
> Can't they write something like: "The home of menthos"?
> That's what I did with Hebrew, because in Hebrew there is no shorter way
> to write it.
> ("Ha'beit shel dolfin")
> 
> Gil
> 
> Christian Rose wrote:
> 
>  >mån 2002-11-18 klockan 23.09 skrev Reinout van Schouwen:
>  >
>  >
>  >>>We just have to decide which is more desireable -
>  >>>
>  >>>		o gman's Home
>  >>>		o Home Folder
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >>A better solution of course, is to have $HOME be the Desktop by default
>  >>and be done with it.
>  >>
>  >>Furthermore, from l10n perspective, I can tell you: neither is desirable.
>  >>If I take Dutch as an example, the translation team eventually went for
>  >>'persoonlijke map' (lit. 'personal folder') because the association value
>  >>of the home directory with the building you live in just is very small.
>  >>[This also means the icon used for home is bad, l10n-wise. I'd rather see
>  >>the gdm-user photo there, for instance.]
>  >>
>  >>
>  >
>  >And posessives with an %s where the %s might be any name are, as already
>  >mentioned in http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=45360 a long time
>  >ago, very bad for localization, since rules for posessives vary between
>  >languages, and in some languages the form of the posessive even depends
>  >on the posessing noun (the owner).
>  >
>  >Swedish is an example of the latter. Posessives are written as "<owner>s
>  ><item>", but not when the owner is a word or name that already ends with
>  >an s-like sound. In those cases it is only "<owner> <item>". So
>  >"menthoss hem" is clearly wrong; "menthos hem" would be the correct
>  >form. On the same time, "Gegl hem" is wrong, but "Gegls hem" is correct.
>  >This is of course impossible to get right without some adaptive code
>  >based on automatic on-the-fly word analysis on the %s, and that's of
>  >course not a suitable solution.
>  >
>  >Currently, we are using a hack in the Swedish translation so that this
>  >entry only gets translated into the equivalent of "Home Folder" without
>  >the user name, but as this problem affects more languages than Swedish
>  >it would be nice if the original was fixed so that it doesn't use
>  >posessive form.
>  >
>  >
>  >Christian
>  >
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