Re: RFC - keyboard shortcuts in Gnome 2

["Hasbullah Bin Pit (sebol)" <sebol ikhlas com>]

On Mon, 28 Jan 2002, Alexander Shopov wrote:

> Hi,
> As Gnome2 begins to mature, translators are going to translate the
> Gnome2 po-files more and more.
> I would like to hear what is the official strategy for keyboard
> shortcuts, their representation and co-ordination.
> 
> To the best of my knowledge:
> Right now keyboard shortcuts are represented in the following way:
> 
> #: samples/bonoboui/Bonobo_Sample_Hello.xml.h:4
> msgid "_Edit"
> msgstr ""
> 
> The msgid has an underscore character before the letter that is the
> keyboard shortcut.
> So this will mean that on the menu the "E" character of the "Edit" menu
> will be underlined and people will be able to get to it by pressing
> "Ctrl-E"
> 
> In this particular case the Bulgarian translation also has the sound "e"
> in it, and can be underscored, but this is not always the case. Non
> latin/cyrillic languages will face even bigger difficulties.
> 
> So I want to ask the following questions:
> 
> 1. Will Keyboard shortcuts be dependent on the LOCALE? For example will
> I have to press 1 key combination when the interface is in Bulgarian and
> another when the interface is in English? What about different Charsets
> - CP1251 vs. UTF-8, etc.

the "alt" Yes, not sure with ctrl.

> 2. Will Keyboard shortcuts be dependent on keyboard layout? For example
> when I am using a Bulgarian keymap and press Ctr-E, the result is
> different than Ctrl-E in English keymap. Will we have to use only one
> keymap and unable to use shortcuts in anther?
> 
> 3. How are different shortcuts be represented?
> Ctrl-A
> Alt-A
> Mod-A
> Ctrl-Shift-A 
> etc.

i think mod & alt is the same, not sure.


> 4. What initiatives are there to standardize keyboard shortcuts across
> different apps?

human interface guide, under user input.
http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/hig-0.1/userinput.html
http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/hig-0.1/menus.html


> 5. What initiatives are there to standardize keyboard shortcuts across
> different languages?

i'm planing to standardize shortcut for my own locale,
but just for alt keys, bcoz by locale us us keyboard.
i dont know about kbd mapping for other locale :(

> 6. What initiatives are there to synchronize with KDE?
> 7. What initiatives are there to synchronize with proprietary OSes like
> Windows, MacOS X?

there are, i've found something like HIG, maybe "accesibality"
or usability 
that list down, gnome vs java vs windows.. forgot where.


> 8. What tools are there to check the consistence of shortcuts (for
> example Ctrl-E pointing to two different things in the same dialogue,
> menu, etc.)  
dunno.

> 9. Will there be different styles shortcuts:
> MS like - single key combinations
> vi like - ESC combinations
> EMACS like - esc-meta-alt-control-shift

the docs mentioned at question 6 & 7 have MS like, emacs like
but forgot where... :(


extra:

I'm planning to produce a pot file (similar to glossary)
 for the use of standard menubar. I'm still studying menubar from various 
apps to produce the pot file. so when it's localized, it's become something 
like 'alt key standard' for each locale.

give me a month....


-- 
Hasbullah Bin Pit (sebol)
Fail .signature ini mengandungi enam belas aksara 'a' dan lapan aksara 'i'