Re: Imminent API/ABI freeze: (was TARBALLS DUE: GNOME 2.5.1 Developme nt Release)

[Bill Haneman <Bill Haneman Sun COM>]

Murray Cumming Comneon com wrote:

Just so you can't say we didn't warn you, I'd like to point out that the
API/ABI freeze will happen on December 8th, 4 days from now.
  

Murray/all:

Just so you know - there is a _critical_ accessibility API-related bug in gtk+ which haven't been addressed yet, since Owen has been on holiday (and several other serious accessibility API bugs against gtk+).   I don't know quite what to do about this, but at least one of the bugs is a total accessibility stopper and as such may have to be dealt with via an exception to the freeze:

64613

nor

Nor

gtk-bugs gtk org

NEW

focus handling (OutputOnly, ICCCM compliance)

The user-visible problem is GOK bug

126727

cri

Urg

REOP

gok

general

GOK getting focus due to gtk+ internals change

but this bug cannot be fixed or worked around in GOK.

This (like several accessibility problems in the GNOME 2.5 stack) is caused by behavioral changes in gtk+, so from a user viewpoint they are very serious regressions.  However from gtk+'s viewpoint bincompat has not been broken, so the only alternative is either change gtk+'s behavior or new API.  There's a patch for the gtk+ bug, but if it can't be applied the only alternative is new API.

There is also gnomeprint bug

96802

nor

Nor

jody gnome org

NEW

Print Preview needs accessibility features

We've been trying to deal with this one and will work with Jody to try and solve it by Monday - but it's definitely an API issue.

We have been working hard to close all the API issues in the accessibility modules on time, but some issues cannot be resolved in the accessibility modules themselves.

Other significant gtk+ API issues for accessibility:

79327	nor	Nor	gtk-bugs gtk org	NEW		Should have gtk_widget_get_mnemonic_label()
92346	enh	Nor	gtk-bugs gtk org	NEW		Window icons don't respect icon theme
104811	nor	Nor	gtk-bugs gtk org	NEW		Not possible to get position and text for a GtkScale
113112	nor	Nor	gtk-bugs gtk org	NEW		Cannot determine whether a widget has an attached menu
114851	nor	Nor	gtk-bugs gtk org	NEW		Cannot determine the widget for which tooltip is displayed

Of these, three have patches which have not been reviewed.
 
How should we proceed to get these resolved in time?

regards

Bill

Here's some information about the API/ABI freeze:
http://developer.gnome.org/dotplan/tasks.html#FreezeAPI
http://developer.gnome.org/dotplan/tasks.html#ApprovingFreezeBreaks

As ever, we would like you to send an email to the release-team to tell us
what new API you have added to your GNOME Platform modules.

  

Here's a pretty calendar to scare your pants off:

     December 2003
  Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa
      1  2  3  4  5  6
   7 (8) 9(10)11 12 13  2.5.1, API/ABI Freeze
  14 15 16 17 18 19 20
  21 22 23 24 25 26 27
  28(29)30(31)          2.5.2 tarballs due and released
  
      January 2004
  Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa
               1  2  3
   4  5  6  7  8  9 10
  11(12)13(14)15 16 17  2.5.3, Feature, Module and UI Freeze
  18 19 20 21 22 23 24
  25(26)27(28)29 30 31  2.5.4 tarballs due and released
  
     February 2004
  Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa
   1  2  3  4  5  6  7
   8 (9)10(11)12 13 14  Beta 1, String and Hard UI Freeze
  15 16 17 18 19 20 21
  22(23)24(25)26 27 28  Beta 2, HARD CODE FREEZE
  29
  
       March 2004
  Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa
     (1) 2 (3) 4  5  6  Release Candidate tarballs due and released
   7 (8) 9(10)11 12 13  GNOME 2.6.0 FINAL
  14 15 16 17 18 19 20
  21 22 23 24 25 26 27
  28 29 30 31
    

Murray Cumming
www.murrayc.com
murrayc usa net
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