Re: Bugs, Blame, Bogosity

[Gregory Merchan <merchan phys lsu edu>]

On Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 12:34:38PM +0000, Mark McLoughlin wrote:
> Hi Gregory,
> 
> On Tue, 26 Mar 2002, Gregory Merchan wrote:
> 
> > You may be aware that the status dock is not working in GNOME 2.0 and did
> > not work reliably in 1.4.  A number of bug reports have been filed against
> > window managers, docklet-using applications, and the status dock itself.
> > Lately, despite that the status dock has been reported not to work with
> > other window managers, the reports have been reassigned to sawfish; another
> > one was reassigned moments before this email.
> 
> 	I assume you're talking about #76360 being marked a dup of
> #62650 ... If you look at #76360 and specifically the comment - "This
> is a duplicate of #62652" - how else would you expect me to proceed ?

Yes, that's the one. (#62652, is the other one, btw.) It was nothing
personal, this has been going on for a while.  #76360 is filed against
the panel and #62652 is filed against sawfish. It can't be of any help
to have reports filed against the wrong component. #62652 should have
either been closed as NOTABUG, been marked as a request for enhancement
with NEEDINFO, or maybe a duplicate of #72594.

#76360 is properly a duplicate of #72594.


> 	Havoc sent out a rather shorter mail with regards this that I
> wholeheartedly agreed with
> 
> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2002-March/msg00587.html
> 
> 	I have had absolutely zero interest in looking at 'fixing' the
> status dock in the GNOME 2.0 panel, purely because of the fact that
> there is no agreed spec. And I would nearly go so far as to say that
> until there is an agreed upon spec, we should have *no* status dock
> support ...

I also agree that it should be removed if the protocol is not standardized.
Actually, the CORBA method exists. I don't know if it works, but the
status dock just as well might be kept without promise of interoperability.
Gabber and XMMS don't use that though. I can also submit a patch to use
the proposed protocol. I was going to put a patch in bugzilla a week ago,
but I decided not to work on it yet.

It is rather odd that the GNOME Status Dock and KDE System Tray are expected
to interoperate and the panels aren't; they aren't significantly different
from each other. *shrug*


Cheers,
Gregory Merchan

P.S. - My apologies for the thread to anyone suffering from formication.